RE: jaws 7

  • From: "Jim Grimsby" <jimgrims@xxxxxxxxxxx>
  • To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Wed, 9 Nov 2005 10:36:17 -0800

Press alt this will open the menu bar press o press b 
Hth 

jim grimsby 
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-----Original Message-----
From: jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On
Behalf Of Judith Bron
Sent: Wednesday, November 09, 2005 9:03 AM
To: jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: Re: jaws 7


Yardbird, I understand about the retina, that's where my visual problem
stems from.  Can you tell me how to get to basics?  I brought the jaws
window up with jaws key j and then tried accessing it through the desk
top. Both times I got the window but couldn't arrow around in the box to
get to basics.  Judith
----- Original Message -----
From: "Yardbird" <yardbird@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Wednesday, November 09, 2005 11:54 AM
Subject: Re: jaws 7


> Well, thanks.  I can see in my blurry way that the program interface 
> is on the screen, but I can't see clearly enough with my central 
> vision (the
part
> of the retina we use for reading, seeing faces, etc., none of which I 
> can
> do) to see that the shark logo  is decorating it.  So when Judith
referred
> only to the logo, and didn't just say that the  Main Jaws interface
window
> was what she meant, I didn't know what to think.
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Chris Skarstad" <toonhead5@xxxxxxxxxxx>
> To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Sent: Wednesday, November 09, 2005 12:09 AM
> Subject: Re: jaws 7
>
>
> the JAWS logo is a shark. it appears in the main window when the 
> window is actually on the screen, instead of the system tray.
>
>
>
> At 12:34 AM 11/9/2005, you wrote:
> >I'm confused.  Judith referred to seeing a jaws logo on the screen.  
> >I imagined that to be some sort of company design.  Are you saying 
> >that
what
> >she's seeing is the Jaws main interface and its menus?  it just seems
fair
> >to explain that this isn't decorative, but the basic interface of the

> >program, and *then* to explain that the program can be run like her 
> >other applications, so that it's always available the way Word is, or

> >made to
run
> >in the system tray, where it won't be seen unless called up from the
system
> >tray or by pressing Insert J.
> >
> >Now, if a logo like a shark is what's on the screen, that's a 
> >different matter, of course... loo or that was
> >----- Original Message -----
> >From: "Chris Skarstad" <toonhead5@xxxxxxxxxxx>
> >To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> >Sent: Tuesday, November 08, 2005 10:14 PM
> >Subject: Re: jaws 7
> >
> >
> >Hi Judith
> >
> >Ok, do the following to get rid of the JAWS window on the screen, if 
> >you haven't figured this out already on your own doing some 
> >searching. go to your JAWS window and go to options, and then 
> >basics... when you press enter here, you'll get a dialogue box with a

> >few
checkboxes.
> >the one you want to check is, run JAWS from system tray.  Check this 
> >box. then go through the options and set things how you want them. If

> >you're unsure of what an item in the list is, press insert plus f1 
> >and you'll
hear
> >a description of the current item and what it does. then press ok.
> >
> >Ok, now you should be bak at your regular JAWS window again.  To get 
> >JAWS to run in your system tray which will keep the JAWS window off 
> >the screen but still running, you'll need to unload JAWS with insert 
> >plus f4 and
then
> >restart JAWS.  By default, JAWS puts a desktop icon for itselfon your

> >desktop, so before you hit alt plus f4 to restart, press windows key 
> >plus
m
> >and then press j until you hear JAWS 7.0
> >Ok, now do your insert plus f4 to lose JAWS and then press ok to 
> >close it.  Now if you're focused on the desktop icon for JAWS 7, 
> >which you
should
> >be, just wait a few seconds, and then press enter. In a few seconds, 
> >JAWS should load up again, and then you should be able to access 
> >everything in your JAWS menu a little easier with insert j. it'll pop

> >up your different JAWS menu items in a context menu.
> >
> >Hope this helps.
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >   At 11:12 PM 11/8/2005, you wrote:
> > >Well, For the most part it is working.  However, I keep getting the
jaws
> > >logo up on the screen.  Is there a way to avoid this?
> > >----- Original Message -----
> > >From: "Robert Hebert" <roberthebert@xxxxxxxxx>
> > >To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> > >Sent: Wednesday, November 09, 2005 12:16 AM
> > >Subject: Re: jaws 7
> > >
> > >
> > > > That's what I had read--there is a separate version for Windows 
> > > > 98.
As
> > > > I
> > >have said, I should have gone to the web site to verify this first.

> > >Thanks for that, Chris.
> > > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > > From: "Chris Skarstad" <toonhead5@xxxxxxxxxxx>
> > > > To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> > > > Sent: Tuesday, November 08, 2005 8:36 PM
> > > > Subject: Re: jaws 7
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > hi
> > > > There is  *most definitely* a version of JAWS 7 for windows 98. 
> > > > In fact with the CD Judith has, the proper version is installed 
> > > > based on the operating system being used.
> > > > So she wouldn't need to ditch the cd and re-download it at all,
the
cd
> > >just
> > > > installs the proper version. nice!
> > > >
> > > > At 10:31 PM 11/8/2005, you wrote:
> > > > >Judith, I believe I read in the Jaws 7 release notes that 
> > > > >version 7 was NOT meant for Windows 98.
> > > > >You can certainly have more than one version of Jaws on your
system
> > > > >though--although I guess your ram capacity would bear on that.
Also,
> > > > >Version 7 is, I believe about 7 megs in size so we should 
> > > > >really
know
> > > > >a
> > > > >little more about your system before giving a definitive 
> > > > >answer. I use the hot key combo control alt 5, control alt 6 
> > > > >and control
alt
> > > > >j
> > >for
> > > > >versions 5, 6 and 7 respectively.
> > > > >I like version 7 best of all but so far I have not experienced 
> > > > >many of
> > >the
> > > > >problems others have spoken of.
> > > > >I am quite certain though that version 7 is specifically not 
> > > > >recommended for Windows 98.
> > > > >----- Original Message -----
> > > > >From: "Judith Bron" <jbron@xxxxxxxxxxx>
> > > > >To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> > > > >Sent: Tuesday, November 08, 2005 5:12 PM
> > > > >Subject: Re: jaws 7
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >I just went to the FS website and read of the new features.  
> > > > >Quite
> > >honestly,
> > > > >the spike feature discussed earlier this week would allow me to

> > > > >collect material on the clipboard and paste it all when I was 
> > > > >ready.  The other
> > >new
> > > > >feature that allows for easier menu reading has never been a
problem
> > > > >for
> > >me.
> > > > >One thing that I forgot to point out is that I'm working on 
> > > > >windows 98. Would this pose a problem if I decided to install 
> > > > >the program? Thanks,
> > > > >Judith
> > > > >----- Original Message -----
> > > > >From: "Bruce Toews" <DogRiver@xxxxxxxx>
> > > > >To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> > > > >Sent: Tuesday, November 08, 2005 8:08 PM
> > > > >Subject: Re: jaws 7
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > > There's one on the FS Website. It will be better at listing 
> > > > > > the improvements than any of us could be.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Bruce
> > > > > >
> > > > > > --
> > > > > > Bruce Toews
> > > > > > E-mail and MSN/Windows Messenger: DogRiver@xxxxxxxx Web Site

> > > > > > (including info on my weekly commentaries):
> > >http://www.ogts.net
> > > > > > Info on the Best TV Show of All Time: 
> > > > > > http://www.cornergas.com
> > > > > >
> > > > > > On Tue, 8 Nov 2005, Judith Bron wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > Does anyone have a list of improvements in jaws 7?  So far

> > > > > > > its
2
> > >against
> > > > >and
> > > > > > > 1 for.  Still thinking on it.  Judith
> > > > > > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > > > > > From: "Steve" <k8sp@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> > > > > > > To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> > > > > > > Sent: Tuesday, November 08, 2005 7:57 PM
> > > > > > > Subject: Re: jaws 7
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >> Guys,
> > > > > > >>
> > > > > > >> Really, now.  One doesn't have to mutually exclude the 
> > > > > > >> other? I
> > >think
> > > > > > > it's
> > > > > > >> been noted countless times, you can upgrade but if there 
> > > > > > >> are areas
> > > > >where
> > > > > > >> things may not work right, it isn't a criminal offense to
keep
> > > > > > >> the
> > > > >older
> > > > > > >> version there as a fall-back.
> > > > > > >>
> > > > > > >> Frankly, there's a lot that JFW 7 has to offer, and I've 
> > > > > > >> not
> > > > >encountered
> > > > > > >> many of the problems that others have.  Obviously, there 
> > > > > > >> are
> > > > >differences
> > > > > > > in
> > > > > > >> system performance due to different display adapters,
installed
> > > > >drivers,
> > > > > > >> installed software and so forth.  But, I find that JFW 7 
> > > > > > >> performs
> > > > >better
> > > > > > > on
> > > > > > >> certain web pages and with certain forms; and other 
> > > > > > >> additions such
> > >as
> > > > > > >> improved table formatting, MSN 7 support, the virtual
clipboard
> > > > >feature,
> > > > > > >> firefox etc. are strong arguments to use 7 but have the 
> > > > > > >> fallback
> > > > >ability
> > > > > > > to
> > > > > > >> your version of choice.
> > > > > > >>
> > > > > > >> Steve
> > > > > > >> ----- Original Message -----
> > > > > > >> From: "Jim" <jimscave@xxxxxxxxxx>
> > > > > > >> To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> > > > > > >> Sent: Tuesday, November 08, 2005 7:45 PM
> > > > > > >> Subject: Re: jaws 7
> > > > > > >>
> > > > > > >>
> > > > > > >> Heya Judith,
> > > > > > >>
> > > > > > >> stick with 5.1 as Ive decided to go back to it after many
> > >frustrations
> > > > > > > with
> > > > > > >> 7
> > > > > > >>
> > > > > > >> cheers,
> > > > > > >>
> > > > > > >> Jim from Oz
> > > > > > >>
> > > > > > >>
> > > > > > >>
> > > > > > >>   ----- Original Message -----
> > > > > > >>   From: Judith Bron
> > > > > > >>   To: jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > > > > > >>   Sent: Wednesday, November 09, 2005 8:20 AM
> > > > > > >>   Subject: jaws 7
> > > > > > >>
> > > > > > >>
> > > > > > >>   Quite to my surprise I just got a CD of Jaws 7 in the 
> > > > > > >> mail. As I
> > > > > > > alluded
> > > > > > >> to earlier I haven't been following all the complaints 
> > > > > > >> about this
> > > > >newest
> > > > > > >> version because I didn't have it and was content with my 
> > > > > > >> jaws 5.1.
> > > > >Should
> > > > > > > I
> > > > > > >> install the new jaws or stick with my jaws 5.1?  Is it as
easy
> > > > > > >> to
> > >use
> > > > >as
> > > > > > >> 5.1?  Thanks, Judith
> > > > > > >>
> > > > > > >>
> > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >>
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