Re: jaws 6.1

  • From: "Tom Reid" <Tom.Reid2@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Sat, 9 Apr 2005 10:55:51 +0100

Stopped taking out SMA's at jaws 5 because of limited improvements and lack 
of control. Might get hit one day if I upgrade, but, at least will be 
choosing.

Tom

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Bill" <bill.cam@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Saturday, April 09, 2005 10:25 AM
Subject: RE: jaws 6.1


>a few additional comments to barry's excellent message.
>
> the number one priority of the jfw screen reader when it comes to bugs is
> to fix bugs that appear on most computers and those that deal with windows
> components included in the o s.
>
>
> so even worse was the bug with o e in version 5.1, that should have been
> discoverred and fixed before the release.
>
> thank god they went back and patched jfw5.0 with the 844 patch.
>
> heck just yesterday we talked about how the wrong menu is brought up when
> on a web site in  i e and hitting the right application menu key  does not
> work properly.
>
> that bug is about 2 plus years or older and stillwith us.
> not to mention its on all computers.
>
>
> as far as innovation is concern, not sure what feature  the author of that
> message was talking about.
>
> jfw 6.0 2 best features, reading the progress bars and remote desk top
> first appearred in window eyes and remote desk top was no additional cost
> like it is in jfw.
>
>
> so no innovation, just playing copy cat their.
>
> in fact they should have gone one step further, and maid the progress bar 
> a
> manual keystroke like it is in window eyes for us users that like multi
> tasking.
>
>
> plus the cost for most for remote desk top is out ragious.
>
> me personally, i already owned the pro key, but for those that do not you
> get hit with a double whammy.
>
> cost of upgrading to the pro key and also the extra 200 for remote desk 
> top.
>
> window eyes users where able to get the pro version  for the price of an s 
> m A.
> about 66 dollars at the time they maid the offer.
>
>
> bruce i think your missing a very obvious point.
>
> first jfw knows their not fixing bugs.
> secondly they  really are not concernned with jfw as much as other 
> products
> they sell.
>
>
> jfw is no longer the bread winner for freedom scientific, not even the 
> best
> saling software they produce.
>
>
> magic is now the focus and the main concern, bottom line, more visually
> impaired folks than totally blind ones.
>
> in fact most of the focus in jfw 5 release was rewriting jfw to be
> compatible with magic.
>
> thats why 5 hardly offerred any features atall
>
> it also explains why jfw 5.1 included a few extras, to make up for the 
> loss
> of stuff in 5.0.
>
> unfortunately think 5 was a mix bag, sure it worked much better with magic
> and i am happy f s did take this step, its only logical the 2 can work
> together.
>
> on the down side the rewriting of parts of the code also meant more issues
> with older scripts and the like.
>
>
> so i and others where hoping that older bugs and new bugs would be
> addressed in version 6 and 6.1.
>
>
> sounds like where still waiting for bug fixes.
>
> also seems that f s may be headed down the same path as telesensory, which
> virtually did the same thing, for got about screen reader users and
> concentrated on devices for those that are visually impairred instead.
>
> lets hope f s decides on a free upgrade to 6.2 that actually fixes bugs.
>
>
> after all isn't the purpose of a point1 upgrade supposed to be more about
> bug fixes.
>
> now about the accent, well sorry to here thatnews.
>
> but if your a keynote S A user forget using it with jfw in the x p 
> enviroment.
>
> not supported at all, though window eyes does support the keynote S A.
>
>
>
>
>
> bill
>
>
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