Re: jaws 6.1
- From: "Gene" <guystevens@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Fri, 8 Apr 2005 17:42:04 -0400
Are you sure the problem with MSN is the fault of FS? My sighted wife uses
MSN and doesn't like the changes from 6.2 to 7.0 either. Maybe they are the
culprit.
As for Beta testing... I agree it should be done. I for one would like an
answer as to why it was discontinued. I have my suspicions but don't want to
get in to it here... it would ruffle to many feathers. I will say that I
suspect that the blind community itself is partially to blame.
Gene
----- Original Message -----
From: "Barry Campbell" <jazzlion1@xxxxxxxxxxx>
To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Friday, April 08, 2005 3:39 PM
Subject: RE: jaws 6.1
> Gene:
> The problem with how fs does business is that when you report a bug =
> and it
> is verified it does not always get fixed. Also when they used to put a
> update out there used to be a public beta test before a final release. =
> Now
> they just to private beta and then just say well we will fix that in the
> next release which potentially could be 7 months away. With a product =
> like
> MS messenger which is a huge in client for the blind to put out a new
> version of the software without thoroughly testing is inexcusable.
> =20
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On =
> Behalf
> Of Gene
> Sent: Friday, April 08, 2005 2:02 PM
> To: jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Subject: Re: jaws 6.1
>
>
> Again I may catch hell... but I don't think a lot of you have given any=20
> thought to the ungodly complicated affair writing a program like Jaws =
> is. I=20
> am a COBOL and FORTRAN programmer, as well as doing some work in =
> Assembler=20
> and C. I haven't seen the code for Jaws of course but I have a good idea =
> of=20
> the complexities involved. Yes it's expensive and yes it should be as =
> bug=20
> free as possible by the time we get it. But keep in mind that every =
> computer
>
> system is different and that what works well on the ones at SF may not =
> work=20
> so well on yours.
>
> Gene
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----=20
> From: "Bruce Toews" <water_drinker@xxxxxxxx>
> To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Sent: Friday, April 08, 2005 1:30 PM
> Subject: Re: jaws 6.1
>
>
>> Unfortunately, some people can't afford to switch screen readers. FS=20
>> knows this and is counting on it. At some point the balance will tip=20
>> and they won't be able to count on loyalty brought on by financial=20
>> necessity. I am lucky enough to have both products, and I prefer JAWS=20
>> because I'm used to the interface. But FS is making it very easy for=20
>> me to switch loyalties, and one of these days (though it hasn't=20
>> happened yet), I just might. I'm only one person, and I don't for a=20
>> second think my decision would affect FS in the least, so it's not a=20
>> threat, just a reality.
>>
>> Bruce
>>
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>> On Fri, 8 Apr 2005 philwh@xxxxxxxx wrote:
>>
>>> besides, I bought the last 12 accent sa that aicom
>>> had available before they closed their doors.
>>> I also grabbed that last 30 accnt pc cards available.
>>> I do use them with linux, but it sure would be nice if
>>> I could use them with jaws 5 and above.
>>> well, if the people at freedom can't solve
>>> my newest problem, I am throwing out jfw
>>> and getting windoweyes.
>>> phil
>>>
>>> On Thu, Apr 07, 2005 at 11:54:23PM -0700, jim grimsby wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> What's an accent SA?
>>>> It is a hardware synthesizer that was created by aicom it is no=20
>>>> longer being maid but a lot of blind people are still using them=20
>>>> including me on my linux computer. Note before any one says well=20
>>>> scence it is no longer being maid why fix the problem the artic=20
>>>> synthesizers emulate a accent and artic is still making the spirit.=20
>>>> =3D20
>>>> ----- Original Message -----=3D20
>>>> From: <philwh@xxxxxxxx>
>>>> To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>>> Sent: Thursday, April 07, 2005 8:36 PM
>>>> Subject: Re: jaws 6.1
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> fs really doesn't want to fix bugs as far as I can see.
>>>> I reported that since jfw 5.0, jfw hasn't supported
>>>> the accent sa properly. jfw does not
>>>> change the spell rate, nor does it indicate case with pitch change=20
>>>> as it did with earlier versions of jaws. When I contacted fs tech=20
>>>> support, they sent me a document that was supposed to fix the=20
>>>> problem, and of course, it didn't. when fs was again notified that=20
>>>> it doesn't work properly, absolute silence. I even offered to loan=20
>>>> fs an accent sa so they could fix the problem. no response.
>>>>
>>>> phil
>>>>
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