I made the switch to 6.1 but went back to 6.0. I lost my braille display and ability to use remote access. I will try again in a few days when I have time and sighted help. For the most part I am well satisfied with freedom scientific. I used to program and know what that is like. If one screen reader was that much better than the other everyone would jump ship. I agree not all improvments are what the majority wants but you can't have it all. I for one use remote access for my job and saw no big problem paying for this. Others have no clue what this is or anything about it. That is ok too. SOme of you use word and excel, I use word to type memos or notes and will naver use have of the commands that are available. Take for example, all of the jaws commands. I don't use all of the jfw commands because I depent on braille and can read faster than I can listen. I guess what I am trying to say is that be thankful for what you do have and be patient. Window eyes has it's draw backs and if you subscribe to their mailing list you will see that not everyone is happy with it either. I would like to have both windoweyes and jfw but can't afford that. -- To post a message to the list, send it to jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx To unsubscribe from this mailing list, send a message to jfw-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with the word unsubscribe in the subject line. Archives located at: //www.freelists.org/archives/jfw If you have any concerns about the list, post received from the list, or the way the list is being run, do not post them to the list. Rather contact the list owner at jfw-admins@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx