RE: jaws 12:

Put me down as well. I can fly with eloquence, but must pay much closer 
attention with RealSpeak, even the voices I like most.

Ted

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From: jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of 
Judy Jones
Sent: Saturday, October 30, 2010 12:08 PM
To: jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: Re: jaws 12:

I have good hearing, and still agree with you there.

Judy

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From: "Rose Combs" <rosecombs@xxxxx>
To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Saturday, October 30, 2010 10:05 AM
Subject: RE: jaws 12:


>I have hearing loss and Eloquence works for me, I can't understand DecTalk
> very well, sounds like he is a bit drunk to me.
>
> I only write this to prove that it is all subjective, I personally feel we
> should all use what we feel comfortable with.  I for example seldom if 
> ever
> use the Real Speak voices, I have used them because FS said they were more
> human sounding but I don't care a lot for them, I understand them, just
> prefer to use Eloquence which is faster and more responsive.
>
> That said, you all can use whatever works for you.
>
> Rose Combs
> rosecombs@xxxxx
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf
> Of ptusing
> Sent: Friday, October 29, 2010 1:53 PM
> To: jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Subject: Re: jaws 12:
>
> Hi,
> There is nothing wrong with Eloquence unless one  happens toacquire some
> form of hearing loss.
> Access 32 has worked great and for those who need better clarity and
> intonation,
> it is excellent.
> I  have had close friends with hearing loss who desperately need something
> of the quality of Access 32.
> If hearing loss adds to disability, then we  should have access to what
> helps people.
> Again Eloquence is fine for many.
> If  one works with nnumber sall day long, Access 32 makes  life a whole 
> lot
> easier.
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Yadiel Sotomayor" <yadosotomayor@xxxxxxxxxxx>
> To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Sent: Friday, October 29, 2010 3:34 PM
> Subject: Re: jaws 12:
>
>
>> ?What's all this about dectalk express 32? What's wrong with eloquence?
>> Don't you think that since fs iis a partner of nuance you don't think 
>> that
>
>> it will prefer eloquence and realspeach over dectalk? Also, can't you buy
>> an independent license?
>>
>> --------------------------------------------------
>> From: "Carman McCauley" <cmccauley@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>> Sent: Friday, October 29, 2010 10:03 AM
>> To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>> Subject: RE: jaws 12:
>>
>>> Hi all
>>>
>>> This is strange,
>>>
>>> At home, using jaws version 11 on an xp machine dectalk access32 works
>>> okay.  Tried it at work same os, does not work.  This is not a gwmicro
>>> version of dectalk but a version form wurzweil.  At work it works with
>>> version 10.  So yes they broke something!!!!
>>>
>>>
>>> I will install version 12 and see what happens, I'll let you know on
>>> Monday.
>>> Carman
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On
>>> Behalf Of Curtis Delzer
>>> Sent: October 29, 2010 6:12 AM
>>> To: jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>> Subject: Re: jaws 12:
>>>
>>> I will definitely give this a try, and thank you very much. . .
>>> I knew they definitely have sabotaged the working
>>> of Dec_access32 and there is not a single
>>> potential of doubt of it, period. No discussion
>>> is possible since it is like claiming something
>>> is supported and then denying problems all in the
>>> same breath, blaming as you say GW-Micro. Proves
>>> there is an issue with the suit, seems to me,
>>> after all, and quite small of a so-called
>>> "leader" in screen readers, tiny and irresponsible and purely childish.
>>>
>>>
>>> Curtis Delzer.
>>> HS.
>>>
>>> to download the Haven cell phone  tour.
>>> in part or in whole
>>> http://www.mysticplace.info/audio/haven
>>>
>>> for 6000 plus ring tones.
>>> http://www.sendspace.com/file/wch4yb
>>>
>>>
>>> on Thursday 10/28/2010 10:34 AM, Gary King said:
>>>>Curtis,
>>>>I went round and round with FS when they broke
>>>>support for the version of DEC Access32
>>>>purchased from GW Micro in the JFW 11 Final
>>>>Release.  It worked all the way through the
>>>>Public Beta of JFW 11 and in all previous
>>>>versions of JFW.  They never admitted to doing
>>>>anything to break this support.  I even wrote to
>>>>Eric Damery, and he put me in touch with the JFW
>>>>development team.  That didn't do any good
>>>>either.  Even after I explained that this
>>>>synthesizer had been working on my XP Home
>>>>system for 5 years, they wanted to blame it on
>>>>the GW Micro installation.  They also wanted me
>>>>to help them obtain a license for the
>>>>synthesizer because they claimed they didn't own
>>>>it.  Of course, no licenses are available now from GW Micro.
>>>>
>>>>Now for the good news.  I am still using DEC
>>>>Access32 with both JFW 11 and 12.  I'm not
>>>>guarantying this method will work for anyone
>>>>else.  I have DEC Access32 set to be my Default
>>>>synthesizer.  Unfortunately, this results in
>>>>Eloquence doing all the talking.  By
>>>>experimentation, I found that I could open
>>>>Default.jcf in my User Settings folder and enter
>>>>4 into the Active equals line instead of the 5
>>>>that JFW uses for the DEC Access32 profile.  I
>>>>was never able to figure out why this works, but
>>>>it does for me.  The drawback to this
>>>>work-around is that if I make any changes in the
>>>>Voice Profile, my entry of 4 is replaced with 5
>>>>again, and I have to perform the replacement once more.
>>>>
>>>>You can try this work-around for yourself, but I
>>>>can't provide any further help than I have
>>>>provided here.  I would be interested to know though if it works for 
>>>>you.
>>>>
>>>>Gary King
>>>>w4wkz@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>>>
>>>>----- Original Message ----- From: "Curtis Delzer" <curtis@xxxxxxxxxx>
>>>>To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>>>Sent: Thursday, October 28, 2010 12:54 AM
>>>>Subject: RE: jaws 12:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>Jaws 12? and  why has FS given up support for
>>>>>>Dec_access32 where it just will not either
>>>>>>work or if it does at all, it stops
>>>>>>immediately. That is what eleven did, and in
>>>>>>tweleve, It will not even begin to work.
>>>>>
>>>>>(xp of course). I am aware that Vista and
>>>>>Windows 7 cannot use Dec_access32, but us XP
>>>>>users it works fine. JFW 10 has no problem with it, but not 11 or 12.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>Curtis Delzer.
>>>>>HS.
>>>>>
>>>>>to download the Haven cell phone  tour.
>>>>>in part or in whole
>>>>>http://www.mysticplace.info/audio/haven
>>>>>
>>>>>for 6000 plus ring tones.
>>>>>http://www.sendspace.com/file/wch4yb
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>--
>>>>>Currently in Fessenden, North Dakota Overcast,
>>>>>26°F Wind:NNW-340° at 18mph gusting to 24mph
>>>>>A snail can sleep for 3 years.
>>>>>
>>>>>Curtis Delzer
>>>>>W B 6 H E F
>>>>>
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