Re: informative material about Freedom Sci
- From: "azhar" <khanair75@xxxxxxxxxxx>
- To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Thu, 12 Aug 2004 15:59:39 -0400
Program is the best,there is no doubt in it that it has changed many lives
including myself but the fact of the matter is that price of it is quite
steep for those who don't have any jobs nor they have any assist by any
agency ...
Azhar
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From: "Sean M McMahon" <smcmahon@xxxxxxxx>
To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Thursday, August 12, 2004 3:16 PM
Subject: RE: informative material about Freedom Sci
> Well ofcourse individual buyers, but I'm saying they should offer
> corperate/academic/government discounts like other software companies.
> That would make the software cheaper for us who depend on agency buying
> access technology.
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> "Chip Orange" <Corange@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Sent by: jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> 08/12/2004 10:49 AM
> Please respond to jfw
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> To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> cc:
> Subject: RE: informative material about Freedom Sci
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> I'm sorry, I'm not following your point. Are you suggesting that FS
> should offer discounts to individual buyers?
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> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx=20
> > [mailto:jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Sean M McMahon
> > Sent: Thursday, August 12, 2004 12:25 PM
> > To: jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > Subject: RE: informative material about Freedom Sci
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> > I would immagine that many of freedom's buyers are agencies=20
> > for state and federal governments and many are also corperate=20
> > in nature. Freedom Scientific offers no discounts to these=20
> > kinds of people. This is something that could save us all money.
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> > "Chip Orange" <Corange@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> > Sent by: jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > 08/12/2004 08:54 AM
> > Please respond to jfw
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> > =20
> > To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> > cc:=20
> > Subject: RE: informative material about Freedom Sci
> >=20
> >=20
> > Bob,
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> > Will makes very good points. I do suggest however, that once=20
> > he (or FS) understands the high cost of their product (and=20
> > this goes for any access technology company), they could do=20
> > more in the area of making some sort of financing=20
> > arrangements available to their potential customers. This=20
> > might go a long way towards defusing the criticism=20
> > surrounding the cost of the product, and might make it more=20
> > affordable to more people.
> > Having a larger user base may in turn help lower the cost.
> >=20
> > Chip
> >=20
> > =3D20
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> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx=3D20
> > > [mailto:jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Smith, Robert J
> > > Sent: Thursday, August 12, 2004 11:27 AM
> > > To: 'jaws-list'
> > > Subject: informative material about Freedom Sci =3D20 I=20
> > don't want to=20
> > >start a huge, off-topic thread here because=3D20 the cost of JAWS is =
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> > >briefly mentioned. But, however, there=3D20 is material in the text =
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> > >below that I thought quite=3D20 informative and interesting about=20
> > >Freedom Sci's staff.
> > > I took this part of a message from another JAWS list I am=3D20 =20
> > >subscribed to.
> > > Bob Smith
> > >=3D20
> > >=3D20
> > > Jane,
> > >=3D20
> > > I agree, that for some, JAWS is priced relatively high=20
> > in=3D20 respect=20
> > >to income.
> > > However, when making comparisons with the lower cost screen=3D20 =20
> > >reader products, it is a bit fool hardy to compare on cost alone.
> > >=3D20
> > > As the old saying goes "you get what you pay for". If=20
> > you=3D20 think=20
> > >of the cost as not being for the cost of the product,=3D20 =20
> > but for the=20
> > >personnel hours taken to develop it, support it,=3D20 test it and =
> so=20
> > >on. Freedom Scientific unarguably have the=3D20 biggest number of=20
> > >developers found in a screen reader=3D20 company, this =20
> > allows them to=20
> > >develop more support, in more=3D20 depth and for a wider range of =20
> > >products than other screen=3D20 reader vendors can. All right, this =
>
> > >point depends on what=3D20 you want to use your computer=20
> > for. If you=20
> > >just want to do =3D20 really limited stuff on Word, write=20
> > basic emails=20
> > >and look at=3D20 basic web sites, then JAWS is probably the wrong=20
> > >product for=3D20 you, but if you want to do more, as most users do, =
>
> > >then JAWS=3D20 will offer you the most abilities to do what=20
> > you want. =20
> > >As=3D20 people who rely on access technology to give us the =3D20 =20
> > >abilities to do things, then JAWS offers us the greatest=3D20 =20
> > amount of=20
> > >abilities to get the most out of our computers be=3D20 it for work, =
>
> > >academia or just for leisure purposes. So, in=3D20 terms of=20
> > >functionality, you definately get what you pay for.
> > >=3D20
> > > The greater number of developers also allows Freedom to=3D20=20
> > develop=20
> > >new, novel and cutting edge functionality to go into=3D20 their=20
> > >products. JAWS was the first screen reader to support=3D20 =20
> > Excel, the=20
> > >first to offer quick navigation keys on the web,=3D20 the first to=20
> > >support Powerpoint, to name a few of the =3D20 cutting edge things=20
> > >Freedom have introduced into JAWS. As=3D20 someone who is =20
> > involved in=20
> > >the advanced research side of=3D20 development at Freedom,=20
> > then I can =20
> > >guarantee this isn't=3D20 about to stop, there's some great=20
> > things being=20
> > >planned.
> > > True, other companies can do this sort of thing, but it=3D20 means =
>
> > >taking developers away from what they usually do,=3D20 =20
> > meaning that the=20
> > >next version of product x won't be=3D20 supported, or the=20
> > functionality=20
> > >in say Word won't be =3D20 improved. By Dan Weirich's own =
> admission,=20
> > >the WE support for=3D20 Word and other Office products was very bad =
>
> > >until recently.=3D20 and Word is somewhere where JAWS has=20
> > been strong=20
> > >for a long time.
> > >=3D20
> > > I can understand your point about the high cost, but would=3D20 =20
> > >encourage everyone making comparisons not only to look at=3D20 =
> cost,=20
> > >but to look at the functionality as well. No two=3D20 =20
> > screen readers=20
> > >are alike, except in the product category. =3D20 It's a bit like=20
> > >comparing Windows to Linux, both are =3D20 operating systems, =
> butboth=20
> > >are completely different.
> > >=3D20
> > > When deciding upon a screen reader, it's like any other=3D20=20
> > piece of=20
> > >software, or any other products. You have to=3D20 decide=20
> > what you need=20
> > >from that product, how much value to=3D20 you put on having to have =
>
> > >those abilites, and make a =3D20 decision on which screen=20
> > reader product=20
> > >is right for you.
> > >=3D20
> > > Oh yes, a lot of staff at Freedom are blind as well. Chris=3D20 =20
> > >Hofstader, Vice President of Software Engineering is=20
> > blind,=3D20 James=20
> > >Datray, lead scripter is blind, as are many others,=3D20 and oh =
> yes,=20
> > >Ted Henter, who created JAWS for DOS, and Glen=3D20 Gordon,=20
> > the Cheif=20
> > >Technical Officer, who created JAWS for=3D20 Windows, they're blind =
>
> > >too.
> > >=3D20
> > > Will
> > >=3D20
> > >=3D20
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