Re: information bubbles and jaws?

As George stated, the information is from JAWS 9, but is also applicable and valid for JAWS 10. It was introduced during the JAWS 9 release cycle, which is why it is there.


Bruce

On Sat, 18 Apr 2009, Yardbird wrote:

George B.,
I understand what this says. But this text isn't where you describe it in
the Jaws 10 help menu under what's new in jaws 10. thanks very much for your
generous assistance. But if someone who is running jaws 10 and is familiar
with where this topic is shown in the Jaws 10 help will tell me where to
look, I'll appreciate that very much. Even though I appreciate your copying
the below information from somewhere, this doesn't come from the help menus
and topics in my version of jaws, and it's important to me to know how to
find something like this. Thanks again.

----- Original Message -----
From: "George B" <gbmagoo@xxxxxxxxxxx>
To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Saturday, April 18, 2009 8:13 PM
Subject: RE: information bubbles and jaws?


I am sorry it is in whats new in jaws 9 which also works in jaws 10. Below
is the text from the help whats new jaws 9

Performing an Action Stated in a Balloon ToolTip
A system tray balloon ToolTip is a way for applications to inform you that
an event has occurred or an action is required. Often these ToolTips state
that you need to "click here" to perform a certain task, such as downloading
updates for Windows. With JAWS 9.0, when such a message appears, you can now
press the JAWS left mouse button (NUM PAD SLASH) to immediately act on the
message before the ToolTip closes.

In JAWS 8.0 and earlier, to select a balloon ToolTip, you had to enable the
JAWS cursor and navigate to the ToolTip. Often the message would close
before you could find it. As you can see, it is much more efficient to use
the JAWS left mouse button.

Note: The INSERT+TAB keystroke speaks the current control, its ToolTip, and
tutor message. If you wait to act on a balloon ToolTip message, you can
press INSERT+TAB to hear if it is still open and available. If it is, press
NUM PAD SLASH to select the ToolTip. If you do not hear the ToolTip, then
the message has closed. At this point, you can press INSERT+F11 to see if
the application that caused the balloon ToolTip to appear is available in
the system tray.

"God grant me the serenity to accept the things I cannot change, The courage
to change the things that I can, and the wisdom to know the difference.


-----Original Message-----
From: jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On
Behalf Of Yardbird
Sent: Saturday, April 18, 2009 19:47
To: jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: Re: information bubbles and jaws?

George,

I looked in the help menu under what's new in Jaws in my Jaws 10, and I
don't see any topic that is about information bubbles. Could you please
explain more specifically where you find those instructions? Thanks.
----- Original Message -----
From: "George B" <gbmagoo@xxxxxxxxxxx>
To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Saturday, April 18, 2009 7:33 PM
Subject: RE: information bubbles and jaws?


Yes it is still in jaws 10, the insert tab to repeat the bubble.go to
jaws
help menu and whats new in jaws and you will see it in there.

"God grant me the serenity to accept the things I cannot change, The
courage
to change the things that I can, and the wisdom to know the difference.

-----Original Message-----
From: jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On
Behalf Of CrisMunoz54
Sent: Saturday, April 18, 2009 19:23
To: jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: RE: information bubbles and jaws?

Yes thank you. I do recall something to that affect with a prior
version of
Jaws. I tried the insert tab suggestion also offered up by a previous
poster, but it doesn't seem as though it worked. Oh well... Thanks
anyway...



-----Original Message-----
From: jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On
Behalf
Of James Homuth
Sent: Saturday, April 18, 2009 7:16 PM
To: jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: RE: information bubbles and jaws?

At some point during the lifecycle of I believe JAWS 8 or 9, you were
able
to have the message repeated to you by using the insert+tab or jaws
key
plus
tab combination after it popped up. The problem is, it doesn't stay
up
for
long, so JAWS doesn't have time to read it a second time. That's a
minor
flaw with Windows itself, and not something FS can correct in a
future
update of JAWS.

James,
List Admin

-----Original Message-----
From: jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On
Behalf
Of CrisMunoz54
Sent: April 18, 2009 1:32 PM
To: jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: RE: information bubbles and jaws?

I'm aware of the left click ability. It is useful, but I for example,
wouldn't wat to just left click on something if I didn't hear what it
was
exactly that Jaws said to begin with. That's more my inquiry than
anything
else. The bility to have Jaws repeat the message if I for whatever
reason
didn't hear it the first time.


-----Original Message-----
From: jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On
Behalf
Of Yardbird
Sent: Saturday, April 18, 2009 8:11 AM
To: jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: Re: information bubbles and jaws?

But within how many seconds do you have to left click? And do you
mean
that
you definitely can't hit Enter because that will only activate
whatever
control Jaws says is the focus at that moment in a dialogue, and you
won't
be in what jaws perceived as a dialogue? What if you didn't hear or
understand everything the bubble said? Is it still no worry to just
click on

it and have faith?
----- Original Message -----
From: "Chris Hallsworth" <christopherh40@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Saturday, April 18, 2009 6:12 AM
Subject: Re: information bubbles and jaws?


Simple. JAWS left click anywhere and the bubble will be clicked.

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----- Original Message -----
From: "Tracy" <tracyduffy@xxxxxxxxx>
To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Saturday, April 18, 2009 2:09 PM
Subject: Re: information bubbles and jaws?


I have the same trouble when JAWS reads prompts for updates or other
types
of information. My problem is also that even if I understood the
information, I often can't find the place to click. For example, if
a
prompt comes up while I'm reading my eamail that says there is an
update
avail for my antivirus program. I can't then find where to click to
tell it
to update. I'm running JAWS 9.

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Skype: 1tracetypegirl
Courage is not the absence of fear, it's the mastery of it.

----- Original Message -----
From: "CrisMunoz54" <crismunoz54@xxxxxxxxx>
To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Saturday, April 18, 2009 1:33 AM
Subject: information bubbles and jaws?


Hello list,

Is there a jaws command to repeat the information bubbles that
windows
from
time to time announces? I ask because, sometimes, jaws will
randomly
speak
these bubbles and either the message gets cut off by a key stroke
or
jaws
beginning to read some other information. I looked in the jaws
help
files
and really didn't come across anything. I know you can disable
these
bubbles, but I'd prefer not to. I just want to be able to have
jaws
repeat
them should I have the need to hear them again.

Thanks...

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