Re: hotkey for shutdown?

There was a question, whether, it is sometimes ok just to use the reset button, (other than power) to shut down or restart the computer. What this does in most machines is to interrupt, without ceremony of any kind, the power to your hard drive. If any writing is taking place, it is unceremoniously stopped, so there is a file fragment which, when you restart is not accounted for, and you probably get an error under the hood which results in a *.chk file being written when you either run chkdsk in xp or scandisk in windows 98 or earlier. These *.chk files aren't just those files, they can be fragments of doc files, data files or programs which get re-written for the programmers or author's reasons which are not properly saved. So, to sum up, that "reset" button is even more dangerous to your computer's software and hardware than the reboot sequence, even a forced one with the power button since, it is more abrupt.



Curtis Delzer




At 12:32 AM 4/14/2006, you wrote: 
ok daniel

i have an e machine pc and when i first went into the power settings i found the power button to be set up to do nothing.

as far as shutting down is concerned all i do is press the main power button for less than a second and it starts the shut down sequence.

i find this to be very very useful when jaws has crashed and no other way is available to restart my machine.

hth.

stephen
----- Original Message ----- From: "Yardbird" <yardbird@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
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Sent: Thursday, April 13, 2006 10:53 PM
Subject: Re: hotkey for shutdown?


Stephen,
I just went and looked at that combo box of possibilities for what you want
to happen when you push the  power button while the machine is on.

But, Stephen, shutting down is the ordinary default function to begin with.
At least it certainly was with my computer, an ordinary Dell Dimension 3000
running Win XP Home with SP 2.  Pushing and holding down the power button
while the computer is running shuts it down for me, and did from the
beginning.  am I to infer that your computer was set up differently at
first?  If so, what happened when you pushed and held the power button while
the computer was running?  Did it do one of those other options?

thanks for explaining,
Daniel
----- Original Message ----- From: "Stephen Faill" <stephen.faill@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Thursday, April 13, 2006 2:14 PM
Subject: Re: hotkey for shutdown?


Daniel

Ok goto settings, control panel, power options.

once in here goto the advanced tab and tab to when i press the power button
and here you will have a combo box of 5 items that you can assign to the
main power button on your machine.

hth

stephen
----- Original Message ----- From: "Yardbird" <yardbird@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Thursday, April 13, 2006 9:40 PM
Subject: Re: hotkey for shutdown?


Hi,

I'm afraid I don't understand what you say, below, about the method you
figured out for yourself.  Going to the control panel, and a combo box,
and
having a button shut down?  i don't get it.  Could you try to rephrase
this?
Now you've made me really curious to find out this possibly helpful
workaround.  Also, by the way, I didn't know this had started with being
in
an emergency cituation because Jaws had stopped.
Daniel

----- Original Message ----- From: "Stephen Faill" <stephen.faill@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Thursday, April 13, 2006 9:36 AM
Subject: Re: hotkey for shutdown?


Daniel

this thread was started by me and i had originally asked this question
because jaws had stopped talking.

i found the most helpful reply to be going to power settings in the
control
panel and going to the advanced tab and using the combo box to have the
power button to shut down for me.

hth

stephen
----- Original Message ----- From: "Yardbird" <yardbird@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Thursday, April 13, 2006 3:50 PM
Subject: Re: hotkey for shutdown?


Hi,
I've been hesitating to ask this, because I'm afraid I may be missing
something obvious, and I don't wish to be insulting if there's some sort
of
serious problem I don't know about that needs solving.  But I'll ask
anyway,
because I'm so curious after following this thread.  First of all, how
could
it be that people are skilled enough with their computers to be
participating in a mailing list like this one, and yet don't know how to
shut down their computers even in the standard manner?  I honestly don't
understand that.  Aren't basic instructions provided when someone gets a
computer?  You just exit your running applications and, now on the
desktop,
either put up the Start menu by pressing the left Start key, or the
Windows
key on the right, or Control Escape.  Then press U for the Shut Down
command
and then choose U from the dialogue that opens, unless you want to
restart,
which means pressing R or alt R, and so forth, just as the dialogue
instructs you.  Or, as some folks have said, you can just exit your
running
applications so that you're just on the desktop, and then press the good
old
Alt F4 keystroke combo that's a nearly universal way to exit something in
Windows, and then respond to that same dialogue with your choice as
described above.

either of these two methods takes far less time to execute than to
describe,
just a matter of a few seconds and a few keystrokes that become second
nature without much effort.  So, I'm wondering, why especially does
anyone
need a hotkey for any of this?

as I said above, this is a sincere question, not sarcastic.  Can anyone
explain what inspired this thread so that I can get whatever it is that
I'm
missing, in case it's a window onto a new, critically efficient computer
operation I might profit by learning?

thanks,
Daniel

----- Original Message ----- From: "harry bates" <hdbates@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Thursday, April 13, 2006 6:50 AM
Subject: Re: hotkey for shutdown?


Unfortunately, I deleted the message that gave the steps to shutdown the
computer, but I do wish to say thanks for the one that said:
If you have a windows xp system, this really works:
press the windows key and then press the letter "u" twice to shutdown or
windows key u and then r to restart.
The shutdown command for a windows xp system is then:
windows key,u,u to shutdown or
windows key,u,r to restart.
Thanks for providing this quicker and better way of doing the shutdown.


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