Re: getting used to the new version of JAWS
- From: "ptusing" <ptusing@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Sat, 29 Mar 2008 17:20:46 -0400
Hi,
I use a Fujitsu laptop which is excellent as it has so many keys that other
laptops lack.
There is no number pad but a targus external numpad works perfectly and the
extra duplicate keys can
substitute for the Insert key.
There is a separate "numpad on/off" key as well.
Every key is so logically situated.
Also I have complete choice of operating system among many models.
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Also lifetime freetech support on any issue.
I mean literally that. One tech researched a JAWS-related issue and he
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----- Original Message -----
From: "dewaynemcm" <dewaynemcm@xxxxxxxxxxx>
To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Saturday, March 29, 2008 4:07 PM
Subject: Re: getting used to the new version of JAWS
i love the new 9.0 i use on all my cp's.on my new dell laptop i have a
number pad just like a regular cp with a standard keyboard.so i use regular
desktop settings and regular keyboard settings,those of u that have a laptop
with a number pad should be able to use the standard keyboard layout.u guys
that say u are using a laptop do u have a number pad or not just curious
dewayne
----- Original Message -----
From: Steve Vandecar
To: jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Sent: Saturday, March 29, 2008 2:39 PM
Subject: Re: getting used to the new version of JAWS
Hi,
The only difference you will see between the laptop layout and the desktop
layout is that you have to hit the caps lock key twice to turn caps lock on
and that is a plus for me. The rest of the normal desktop keys all work the
same or they do for me also. I use the authorization disk I received from
Freedom Scientific when I need to install JAWS on a new computer so have
never typed the key in.
Steve
----- Original Message -----
From: Cy Selfridge
To: jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Sent: Saturday, March 29, 2008 11:45 AM
Subject: RE: getting used to the new version of JAWS
Rose,
I am in the same boat. I have used the standard desktop layout for the
past 14 or so years and I do not need the hassle of the blamed laptop
keyboard. Further, I really do not like the feel or hand position of the
Dell laptop so I just plug in my USB standard keyboard and all is quite well
thank you. (LOL)
I did finally install JAWS 9 from the *replacement* CD and I have to say
that FS could do a wee bit better in having the installation communicate a
bit better.
Also, having to enter that 20 digit authorization code is probably about
as stupid a thing as anything FS has done in some years. Why not just let
the installation communicate with FS to see if I am authorized? (Man, what a
concept - LOL)
Thank Heaven for Narrator!
Cy, the Ancient Okie...
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From: jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On
Behalf Of Rose Combs
Sent: Saturday, March 29, 2008 10:03 AM
To: jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: RE: getting used to the new version of JAWS
Well, I have spent the last ten years using the standard keyboard with
the number pad upwards to 60 hours a week, so that is why I have not really
tried hard to get used to the laptop keyboard.
Rose Combs
rosecombs@xxxxxxxxx
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From: jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On
Behalf Of Mark Driesenga
Sent: Friday, March 28, 2008 9:04 AM
To: jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: Re: getting used to the new version of JAWS
Well, they're really not that hard to remember. I mean, it's not too
difficult to keep in mind that jaws kay u, i, and o respectively read
previous, current, and next line, while jaws key j, k, and l respectively
read previous, current, and next word. Also, jaws key m, comma, and period
read respectively previous, current, and next character. If that's a little
difficult get get your head around, you can always use the numpad even while
in the laptop layout because you actually don't lose that ability anyway.
the nice thing about the laptop layout, which I use on both computers--one
being a laptop, but the one I currently use most of the time is a
desktop--is that you're much more efficient, since everything you could
possibly need is pretty much right there. Mark
"Lord Jesus Christ, Son of God, have mercy on me, a sinner."
----- Original Message -----
From: Rose Combs
To: jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Sent: Friday, March 28, 2008 11:50 AM
Subject: RE: getting used to the new version of JAWS
I hate laptop layout, I use a USB keyboard on my laptop and set it to
desktop, I could never remember the laptop layout. I can't really even use
the laptop without my standard keyboard, none of those commands seem to
stick for me.
Rose Combs
rosecombs@xxxxxxxxx
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From: jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On
Behalf Of Roger Levine
Sent: Thursday, March 27, 2008 6:28 PM
To: jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: Re: getting used to the new version of JAWS
Hi,
I concur with your statements about the keyboard. In fact FS
suggested using the laptop layout with a desktop keyboard several versions
ago. I personally use a USD desktop keyboard with a laptop set to laptop
layout. I am running Jaws 9 with XP pro and find the keyboard layout very
convenient.
Roger
----- Original Message -----
From: Mark Driesenga
To: jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Sent: Thursday, March 27, 2008 5:06 PM
Subject: Re: getting used to the new version of JAWS
Well, the main reason they got rid of the classic layout is because
of key combinations such as alt i and alt o if you came across buttons or
menu items that had those shortcuts. When in classica layout, you were
forced to pass keys through, which actually takes longer to do, actually,
because by the time you have four or five keystrokes, you could have had
only one or two done. Actually, I think you shouldn't have too much trouble
switching, actually. and pressing the capslock key twice to activate it is
actually more of an advantage than it is a disadvantage--think of all the
problems you would have if you accidentally hit the capslock key and didn't
know it. And besides, it's actually becoming more and more of a better
option even on regular desktop keyboards simply because when typing, it's
far easier to reach for the capslock key than it is to fumble around for the
keypad. and making the switch, as I do, between two different machines--one
a desktop and the other a laptop--makes it much easier if you just use the
laptop layout anyway. And besides, you don't lose the numpad functionality
even with the laptop layout, so actually, I'd say just go ahead and make the
switch. It probably won't take you only an hour, if that, to get used to
having to tap the capslock key twice to activate and deactivate it anyway.
really isn't that difficult, since that's really the only change you have to
deal with. It could be much, much worse! Mark
"Lord Jesus Christ, Son of God, have mercy on me, a sinner."
----- Original Message -----
From: Patricia
To: JAWS users list
Sent: Thursday, March 27, 2008 6:31 PM
Subject: re: getting used to the new version of JAWS
Hi:
just thought I would put in my two cents here as well.
I've had JAWS 9 installed on my computer since before Christmas,
and admit i have only used it once or twice. I, too have to get used to it,
and the thing that is turning me off is not the fact that I have to get used
to a new configuration as in the way a dialogue such as the verbosity
dialogue is set up, for me it's the fact thatFS got rid of the classic
laptop layout. For me it just isn't practical to switch to JAWS 9 when I'm
wanting speed and accuracy. Does anyone know why the change? there was no
explanation. I know that they've had the regular laptop setting for some
time now, but I just never swithed because classic was what I had become
accustomed to. I've heard from others that the regular layout is better and
that I will get used to it quickly but when you are a student and you're
looking for speed it isn't always appropriate to start learning a whole new
layout when you're trying to do your schoolwork as well.
I don't know, just my thoughts. I would have loved to have a
little more explanation as to why FS got rid of the classic laptop layout.
If it were kept I know I would have been switched to JAWS 9 a long time ago.
but that will be a summer project, I think. and the other thing Ihate about
the regular laptop layout is that when you press the capslock key, because
that is now your JAWS key you have to press it twice to activate writing in
upper case letters, which doesn't make for a fluid transition for me
personally. how I wish Ihad my desktop in these circumstances!
Patricia
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