Re: getting used to the new version of JAWS

Hi,
I use a Fujitsu laptop which is excellent as it has so many keys that other laptops lack. There is no number pad but a targus external numpad works perfectly and the extra duplicate keys can 
substitute for the  Insert key.
There is a separate "numpad on/off" key as well.
Every key is so logically situated.
Also I  have complete choice of operating system among many models.
1 800 8 fujitsu forany questionsanswered.
Also  lifetime  freetech support on any issue.
I mean literally that. One tech researched a JAWS-related issue and he helped out tremendously. 
The peoplea re really niceand happilyspend timewith you.
----- Original Message ----- From: "dewaynemcm" <dewaynemcm@xxxxxxxxxxx> 
To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Saturday, March 29, 2008 4:07 PM
Subject: Re: getting used to the new version of JAWS
i love the new 9.0 i use on all my cp's.on my new dell laptop i have a number pad just like a regular cp with a standard keyboard.so i use regular desktop settings and regular keyboard settings,those of u that have a laptop with a number pad should be able to use the standard keyboard layout.u guys that say u are using a laptop do u have a number pad or not just curious 

dewayne
----- Original Message ----- From: Steve Vandecar 
 To: jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
 Sent: Saturday, March 29, 2008 2:39 PM
 Subject: Re: getting used to the new version of JAWS


 Hi,
The only difference you will see between the laptop layout and the desktop layout is that you have to hit the caps lock key twice to turn caps lock on and that is a plus for me. The rest of the normal desktop keys all work the same or they do for me also. I use the authorization disk I received from Freedom Scientific when I need to install JAWS on a new computer so have never typed the key in. 

 Steve
----- Original Message ----- From: Cy Selfridge 
   To: jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
   Sent: Saturday, March 29, 2008 11:45 AM
   Subject: RE: getting used to the new version of JAWS


   Rose,
I am in the same boat. I have used the standard desktop layout for the past 14 or so years and I do not need the hassle of the blamed laptop keyboard. Further, I really do not like the feel or hand position of the Dell laptop so I just plug in my USB standard keyboard and all is quite well thank you. (LOL) I did finally install JAWS 9 from the *replacement* CD and I have to say that FS could do a wee bit better in having the installation communicate a bit better. Also, having to enter that 20 digit authorization code is probably about as stupid a thing as anything FS has done in some years. Why not just let the installation communicate with FS to see if I am authorized? (Man, what a concept - LOL) 
   Thank Heaven for Narrator!
   Cy, the Ancient Okie...



----------------------------------------------------------------------------
From: jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Rose Combs 
   Sent: Saturday, March 29, 2008 10:03 AM
   To: jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
   Subject: RE: getting used to the new version of JAWS
Well, I have spent the last ten years using the standard keyboard with the number pad upwards to 60 hours a week, so that is why I have not really tried hard to get used to the laptop keyboard. 


   Rose Combs
   rosecombs@xxxxxxxxx





----------------------------------------------------------------------------
From: jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Mark Driesenga 
   Sent: Friday, March 28, 2008 9:04 AM
   To: jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
   Subject: Re: getting used to the new version of JAWS
Well, they're really not that hard to remember. I mean, it's not too difficult to keep in mind that jaws kay u, i, and o respectively read previous, current, and next line, while jaws key j, k, and l respectively read previous, current, and next word. Also, jaws key m, comma, and period read respectively previous, current, and next character. If that's a little difficult get get your head around, you can always use the numpad even while in the laptop layout because you actually don't lose that ability anyway. the nice thing about the laptop layout, which I use on both computers--one being a laptop, but the one I currently use most of the time is a desktop--is that you're much more efficient, since everything you could possibly need is pretty much right there. Mark 
   "Lord Jesus Christ, Son of God, have mercy on me, a sinner."
----- Original Message ----- From: Rose Combs 
     To: jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
     Sent: Friday, March 28, 2008 11:50 AM
     Subject: RE: getting used to the new version of JAWS
I hate laptop layout, I use a USB keyboard on my laptop and set it to desktop, I could never remember the laptop layout. I can't really even use the laptop without my standard keyboard, none of those commands seem to stick for me. 


     Rose Combs
     rosecombs@xxxxxxxxx





--------------------------------------------------------------------------
From: jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Roger Levine 
     Sent: Thursday, March 27, 2008 6:28 PM
     To: jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
     Subject: Re: getting used to the new version of JAWS


     Hi,
I concur with your statements about the keyboard. In fact FS suggested using the laptop layout with a desktop keyboard several versions ago. I personally use a USD desktop keyboard with a laptop set to laptop layout. I am running Jaws 9 with XP pro and find the keyboard layout very convenient. 
     Roger
----- Original Message ----- From: Mark Driesenga 
       To: jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
       Sent: Thursday, March 27, 2008 5:06 PM
       Subject: Re: getting used to the new version of JAWS
Well, the main reason they got rid of the classic layout is because of key combinations such as alt i and alt o if you came across buttons or menu items that had those shortcuts. When in classica layout, you were forced to pass keys through, which actually takes longer to do, actually, because by the time you have four or five keystrokes, you could have had only one or two done. Actually, I think you shouldn't have too much trouble switching, actually. and pressing the capslock key twice to activate it is actually more of an advantage than it is a disadvantage--think of all the problems you would have if you accidentally hit the capslock key and didn't know it. And besides, it's actually becoming more and more of a better option even on regular desktop keyboards simply because when typing, it's far easier to reach for the capslock key than it is to fumble around for the keypad. and making the switch, as I do, between two different machines--one a desktop and the other a laptop--makes it much easier if you just use the laptop layout anyway. And besides, you don't lose the numpad functionality even with the laptop layout, so actually, I'd say just go ahead and make the switch. It probably won't take you only an hour, if that, to get used to having to tap the capslock key twice to activate and deactivate it anyway. really isn't that difficult, since that's really the only change you have to deal with. It could be much, much worse! Mark 
       "Lord Jesus Christ, Son of God, have mercy on me, a sinner."
----- Original Message ----- From: Patricia 
         To: JAWS users list
         Sent: Thursday, March 27, 2008 6:31 PM
         Subject: re: getting used to the new version of JAWS


         Hi:

         just thought I would put in my two cents here as well.
I've had JAWS 9 installed on my computer since before Christmas, and admit i have only used it once or twice. I, too have to get used to it, and the thing that is turning me off is not the fact that I have to get used to a new configuration as in the way a dialogue such as the verbosity dialogue is set up, for me it's the fact thatFS got rid of the classic laptop layout. For me it just isn't practical to switch to JAWS 9 when I'm wanting speed and accuracy. Does anyone know why the change? there was no explanation. I know that they've had the regular laptop setting for some time now, but I just never swithed because classic was what I had become accustomed to. I've heard from others that the regular layout is better and that I will get used to it quickly but when you are a student and you're looking for speed it isn't always appropriate to start learning a whole new layout when you're trying to do your schoolwork as well.
I don't know, just my thoughts. I would have loved to have a little more explanation as to why FS got rid of the classic laptop layout. If it were kept I know I would have been switched to JAWS 9 a long time ago. but that will be a summer project, I think. and the other thing Ihate about the regular laptop layout is that when you press the capslock key, because that is now your JAWS key you have to press it twice to activate writing in upper case letters, which doesn't make for a fluid transition for me personally. how I wish Ihad my desktop in these circumstances! 

         Patricia


   No virus found in this incoming message.
   Checked by AVG.
Version: 7.5.519 / Virus Database: 269.22.1/1348 - Release Date: 3/28/2008 10:58 AM 




   No virus found in this outgoing message.
   Checked by AVG.
Version: 7.5.519 / Virus Database: 269.22.1/1348 - Release Date: 3/28/2008 10:58 AM 




------------------------------------------------------------------------------


 No virus found in this incoming message.
 Checked by AVG.
Version: 7.5.519 / Virus Database: 269.22.1/1348 - Release Date: 3/28/2008 10:58 AM 

--
JFW related links:
JFW homepage: http://www.freedomscientific.com/
Scripting mailing list: 
http://lists.the-jdh.com/listinfo.cgi/scriptography-the-jdh.com
JFW List instructions:
To post a message to the list, send it to jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
To unsubscribe from this mailing list, send a message to 
jfw-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with the word unsubscribe in the subject line.
Archives located at: http://www.freelists.org/archives/jfw

If you have any concerns about the list, post received from the list, or the 
way the list is being run, do not post them to the list. Rather contact the 
list owner at jfw-admins@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx

Other related posts: