RE: getting used to the new version of JAWS

Rose,
I am in the same boat. I have used the standard desktop layout for the past
14 or so years and I do not need the hassle of the blamed laptop keyboard.
Further, I really do not like the feel or hand position of the Dell laptop
so I just plug in my USB standard keyboard and all is quite well thank you.
(LOL)
I did finally install JAWS 9 from the *replacement* CD and I have to say
that FS could do a wee bit better in having the installation communicate a
bit better.
Also, having to enter that 20 digit authorization code is probably about as
stupid a thing as anything FS has done in some years. Why not just let the
installation communicate with FS to see if I am authorized? (Man, what a
concept - LOL)
Thank Heaven for Narrator!
Cy, the Ancient Okie...

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From: jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf
Of Rose Combs
Sent: Saturday, March 29, 2008 10:03 AM
To: jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: RE: getting used to the new version of JAWS 


Well, I have spent the last ten years using the standard keyboard with the
number pad upwards to 60 hours a week, so that is why I have not really
tried hard to get used to the laptop keyboard.  
 
 

Rose Combs
rosecombs@xxxxxxxxx 

 

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From: jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf
Of Mark Driesenga
Sent: Friday, March 28, 2008 9:04 AM
To: jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: Re: getting used to the new version of JAWS 


Well, they're really not that hard to remember.  I mean, it's not too
difficult to keep in mind that jaws kay u, i, and o respectively read
previous, current, and next line, while jaws key j, k, and l respectively
read previous, current, and next word.  Also, jaws key m, comma, and period
read respectively previous, current, and next character.  If that's a little
difficult get get your head around, you can always use the numpad even while
in the laptop layout because you actually don't lose that ability anyway.
the nice thing about the laptop layout, which I use on both computers--one
being a laptop, but the one I currently use most of the time is a
desktop--is that you're much more efficient, since everything you could
possibly need is pretty much right there.  Mark
"Lord Jesus Christ, Son of God, have mercy on me, a sinner."

----- Original Message ----- 
From: HYPERLINK "mailto:rosecombs@xxxxxxxxx"Rose Combs 
To: HYPERLINK "mailto:jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx"jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx 
Sent: Friday, March 28, 2008 11:50 AM
Subject: RE: getting used to the new version of JAWS 

I hate laptop layout, I use a USB keyboard on my laptop and set it to
desktop, I could never remember the laptop layout.  I can't really even use
the laptop without my standard keyboard, none of those commands seem to
stick for me.  
 
 

Rose Combs
HYPERLINK "mailto:rosecombs@xxxxxxxxx"rosecombs@xxxxxxxxx 

 

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From: HYPERLINK "mailto:jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx"jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
[mailto:jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Roger Levine
Sent: Thursday, March 27, 2008 6:28 PM
To: jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: Re: getting used to the new version of JAWS 


Hi, 
I concur with your statements about the keyboard.  In fact FS suggested
using the  laptop layout with a desktop keyboard several versions ago.  I
personally use a USD desktop keyboard with a laptop set to laptop layout. I
am running Jaws 9 with XP pro and find the keyboard layout very convenient. 
Roger 

----- Original Message ----- 
From: HYPERLINK "mailto:truthobjective@xxxxxxxxx"Mark Driesenga 
To: HYPERLINK "mailto:jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx"jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx 
Sent: Thursday, March 27, 2008 5:06 PM
Subject: Re: getting used to the new version of JAWS 

Well, the main reason they got rid of the classic layout is because of key
combinations such as alt i and alt o if you came across buttons or menu
items that had those shortcuts.  When in classica layout, you were forced to
pass keys through, which actually takes longer to do, actually, because by
the time you have four or five keystrokes, you could have had only one or
two done.  Actually, I think you shouldn't have too much trouble switching,
actually.  and pressing the capslock key twice to activate it is actually
more of an advantage than it is a disadvantage--think of all the problems
you would have if you accidentally hit the capslock key and didn't know it.
And besides, it's actually becoming more and more of a better option even on
regular desktop keyboards simply because when typing, it's far easier to
reach for the capslock key than it is to fumble around for the keypad.  and
making the switch, as I do, between two different machines--one a desktop
and the other a laptop--makes it much easier if you just use the laptop
layout anyway.  And besides, you don't lose the numpad functionality even
with the laptop layout, so actually, I'd say just go ahead and make the
switch.  It probably won't take you only an hour, if that, to get used to
having to tap the capslock key twice to activate and deactivate it anyway.
really isn't that difficult, since that's really the only change you have to
deal with.  It could be much, much worse!  Mark
"Lord Jesus Christ, Son of God, have mercy on me, a sinner."

----- Original Message ----- 
From: HYPERLINK "mailto:bcsarah.fan@xxxxxxxxx"Patricia 
To: HYPERLINK "mailto:jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx"JAWS users list 
Sent: Thursday, March 27, 2008 6:31 PM
Subject: re: getting used to the new version of JAWS 

Hi: 
 
just thought I would put in my two cents here as well. 
 
I've had JAWS 9 installed on my computer since before Christmas, and admit i
have only used it once or twice. I, too have to get used to it, and the
thing that is turning me off is not the fact that I have to get used to a
new configuration as in the way a dialogue such as the verbosity dialogue is
set up, for me it's the fact thatFS got rid of the classic laptop layout.
For me it just isn't practical to switch to JAWS 9 when I'm wanting speed
and accuracy. Does anyone know why the change? there was no explanation. I
know that they've had the regular laptop setting for some time now, but I
just never swithed because classic was what I had become accustomed to. I've
heard from others that the regular layout is better and that I will get used
to it quickly but when you are a student and you're looking for speed it
isn't always appropriate to start learning a whole new layout when you're
trying to do your schoolwork as well. 
 
I don't know, just my thoughts. I would have loved to have a little more
explanation as to why FS got rid of the classic laptop layout. If it were
kept I know I would have been switched to JAWS 9 a long time ago. but that
will be a summer project, I think. and the other thing  Ihate about the
regular laptop layout is that when you press the capslock key, because that
is now your JAWS key you have to press it twice to activate writing in upper
case letters, which doesn't make for a fluid transition for me personally.
how I wish  Ihad my desktop in these circumstances!   
 
Patricia 


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