Re: getting jaws to come up talking.

  • From: "Chris Hallsworth" <christopherhallsworth71@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Sun, 27 Jul 2008 22:50:27 +0100

Hi, two things I can think of. You don't have any accounts other than your administrative account, meaning Windows won't display the Windows Log On dialogue box. The other could be the scanner/JAWS combination, but since I don't have this combination to test with, I can't prove the latter. Hope this helps though.


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----- Original Message ----- From: "Yardbird" <yardbird@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Sunday, July 27, 2008 10:37 PM
Subject: Re: getting jaws to come up talking.


Chris,

P.S. I just looked in my startup group list where you said to look, and all
that's there is my Microtek scanner that I use with Open Book, running its
self-test. Now, I don't know if this contradicts your definition or
experience, but that scanner test runs *before* Jaws speaks, and also my
Desktop is fully up and visible before Jaws speaks, also. I'm partial,
obviously.

Does this contradict anything in your definition? Or does it imply that, all
the while, Jaws is indeed loading but is hesitating to announce that it's
ready until the scanner test has finished and the Desktop screen elements
are all in place? is fully on the screen?

Thanks.
fininsyedsannaobbvioslyu.
----- Original Message ----- From: "Chris Hallsworth" <christopherhallsworth71@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Sunday, July 27, 2008 2:22 PM
Subject: Re: getting jaws to come up talking.


Hi all, when a programme runs as a service, it runs before Windows even logs
you into your account should you have a log in dialogue box. This is why
JAWS and any other commercial screen reader can speak or braille from within the Windows log on dialogue box. This is not the case when a programme runs
from the startup group, as these are executed after Windows is loaded and
you're on the desktop. FYI, the startup group is the startup folder, found
under Start Menu, All Programmes, Startup. Hope this helps.

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----- Original Message ----- From: "Yardbird" <yardbird@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Sunday, July 27, 2008 10:06 PM
Subject: Re: getting jaws to come up talking.


Curtis,

First, I'm surprised to hear that you ran the installation file and
weren't
presented with the repair and modify options when it found that Jaws was
already on your computer. I'm assuming you didn't uninstall Jaws before
trying this, of course! That is, as I think you know, the way to get to
the
repair function for a couple of versions now. There's an explanation of
why
it's not done through the old Start Menu method, but someone else here may
remember the explanation. I've forgotten, myself.

So that is one thing worth thinking about. Second, I thought that placing
Jaws in the Startup Group, which is done by choosing that item from the
options on the main Jaws window (start Jaws automatically, or however it's
worded, now) *did* mean that you were making Jaws run as a service. I
thought that was synonymous with saying something is in the startup group.

Maybe I'm wrong, in which case I'm sure someone will explain the
distinction. But all of this sounds extremely frustrating and a little bit
odd.

I hope someone can offer something helpfully diagnostic.
----- Original Message ----- From: "Curtis Delzer" <curtis@xxxxxxxxxx>
To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Sunday, July 27, 2008 1:54 PM
Subject: getting jaws to come up talking.


My wife has a new computer, an AMD dual core 2.3Ghz with 2 gigs of
ram. Jfw will not come up talking, no matter the start up setting. I
re-installed, (looking for repair which did not exist for some
reason), even running the downloaded installation without that option
shown to me, so un-installed, and re-installed, keeping her settings
for apps, etc. Still, the program, though it's loaded, will not come
up talking. It is using the standard Eloquence that comes with it by
default, so, any more ideas? If I am told how, I will set it up to
run as a service, but need to know how to do that.

Curtis Delzer

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