Re: getting jaws to come up talking.

  • From: "Chris Hallsworth" <christopherhallsworth71@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Sun, 27 Jul 2008 22:22:16 +0100

Hi all, when a programme runs as a service, it runs before Windows even logs you into your account should you have a log in dialogue box. This is why JAWS and any other commercial screen reader can speak or braille from within the Windows log on dialogue box. This is not the case when a programme runs from the startup group, as these are executed after Windows is loaded and you're on the desktop. FYI, the startup group is the startup folder, found under Start Menu, All Programmes, Startup. Hope this helps.


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----- Original Message ----- From: "Yardbird" <yardbird@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Sunday, July 27, 2008 10:06 PM
Subject: Re: getting jaws to come up talking.


Curtis,

First, I'm surprised to hear that you ran the installation file and weren't
presented with the repair and modify options when it found that Jaws was
already on your computer. I'm assuming you didn't uninstall Jaws before
trying this, of course! That is, as I think you know, the way to get to the repair function for a couple of versions now. There's an explanation of why
it's not done through the old Start Menu method, but someone else here may
remember the explanation. I've forgotten, myself.

So that is one thing worth thinking about. Second, I thought that placing
Jaws in the Startup Group, which is done by choosing that item from the
options on the main Jaws window (start Jaws automatically, or however it's
worded, now) *did* mean that you were making Jaws run as a service. I
thought that was synonymous with saying something is in the startup group.

Maybe I'm wrong, in which case I'm sure someone will explain the
distinction. But all of this sounds extremely frustrating and a little bit
odd.

I hope someone can offer something helpfully diagnostic.
----- Original Message ----- From: "Curtis Delzer" <curtis@xxxxxxxxxx>
To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Sunday, July 27, 2008 1:54 PM
Subject: getting jaws to come up talking.


My wife has a new computer, an AMD dual core 2.3Ghz with 2 gigs of
ram. Jfw will not come up talking, no matter the start up setting. I
re-installed, (looking for repair which did not exist for some
reason), even running the downloaded installation without that option
shown to me, so un-installed, and re-installed, keeping her settings
for apps, etc. Still, the program, though it's loaded, will not come
up talking. It is using the standard Eloquence that comes with it by
default, so, any more ideas? If I am told how, I will set it up to
run as a service, but need to know how to do that.

Curtis Delzer

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