Hi Dave,
I'm an old Word user and I'm partially sighted, so I can confirm this. I
hope others will profit from this advice. Even though the Normal View is
best to use for Jaws to have the clearest view of the document most of the
time, the Print View provides an understanding of how the hard copy will
actually look. Although the difference can't be fully appreciated without
sight, Jaws will report usefully on some things, such as headers, which
appear in Print View, but are not displayed in Normal View.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Dave Speck" <dspeck@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Monday, November 21, 2005 6:24 AM
Subject: Re: fs clipboard problem
Actually, JAWS users can benefit from knowing if they are in the Print
view
or Normal view. Do this in both views and listen to the resulting
information.
Press Alt+Delete to hear the cursor's distance from the left and top
margins.
Press Jawskey+Delete to hear the current line and column.
If the user is particular about formatting, it is very important even when
the screen can not be seen.
Regards,
Dave
----- Original Message -----
From: "Yardbird" <yardbird@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Saturday, November 19, 2005 9:00 PM
Subject: Re: fs clipboard problem
Well, that's irrelevant, here, which is why I couldn't have guessed it.
The
print view is simply one of the alternatives on the View menu as to how
the
document will be shown on the screen. It looks more or less the way the
doc
will look when it's printed out. The sides darken and come in a little
so
you can see the document as if it were a sheet of printed paper, the page
numbers or headers you've set will show visually on the screen (the Jaws
cursor can find them, also) instead of remaining hidden as in "normal
view,"
and some other things. It's a useful preview of how your document is
going
to look when printed, pretty much useless and meaningless if you can't
see
it. The usual recommendation with Jaws is to just set the View menu to
show
the "normal view," which I put in quotes because I don't really know what
they mean, except maybe "unenhanced."
anyway, it doesn't make any difference in any other way, except that for
a
Jaws user it's better to work with the normal view, they say, You can
always set it to Print View if someone wants to see how it'll look
printed,
but if no one's looking, it scarcely matters. The ultimate result,
whether
on the computer or printed out, is completely unaffected by this
print/normal thing. That's just a display convenience.
I hope maybe this is helpful. And I have no idea why this person's Jaws
is
even saying "print," any more than I did in the first place. Jaws
doesn't
say "print" anytime I can think of. On the view menu, it says "pprint
view," which is what is sritten there. And when you issue the print
command, it jus says "print." But you can't be copying and pasting text
when you're in the midst of printing a document.
Scratching head, going back to kitchen to eat dinner.
From: "Bruce Toews" <DogRiver@xxxxxxxx>
To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Saturday, November 19, 2005 5:33 PM
Subject: Re: fs clipboard problem
I think that refers to the print view, as opposed to the normal view. And
about that I know absolutely nothing beyond what I've just said. <GRIN>
Bruce
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On Sat, 19 Nov 2005, Yardbird wrote:
> Why is Word saying "Print" at all in this scenario? You're copying and
> pasting text, not printing a document. Do I misunderstand what you are
> doing at times like this? Thanks for explaining.
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Nicki Keck" <favorite.blend@xxxxxxxxxxx>
> To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Sent: Saturday, November 19, 2005 3:03 PM
> Subject: Re: fs clipboard problem
>
>
> For me, it is Word. I will use FS clipboard to select, copy, and
> append
> the
> text I want to put in, then control-V. All works fine. then,
sometimes,
> I
> will select another area, press controlC, word will pause, and then
> just
> say
> "print" and go back to the document without saying "copied." Yesterday
I
> had to select again and press control C multiple times (with answering
yes
> each time) for it to copy the new text. Now usually, it works just
great,
> but sometimes, it gets a bit sluggish and flaky when I've had Word up
for
> a
> while, something I have to do with my job. i just think it would be a
> nice
> thing to have a way of just clearing the clipboard without having to
> try
> to
> copy something else and answer yes.
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Jean Menzies" <jemenzies@xxxxxxx>
> To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Sent: Saturday, November 19, 2005 11:17 AM
> Subject: Re: fs clipboard problem
>
>
>> Sorry, but I don't think it's the FS clipboard that's messed up.
>>
>> One thing you might want to check is how your system is displaying
>> highlighted text. I don't know if that has anything to do with it,
>> but
>> it
>> might. Of course, you know how to select individual words, sentences,
>> etc., right?
>>
>> And depending where you are trying to use the clipboard, there are
>> clipboard settings in Word you might want to turn off. I can't
remember
>> what they are right now, but the MS clipboard might be set up
differently
>> on your computer. And I have no idea if it's Word you're working in
>> or
>> not.
>>
>> But again, I really don't think the FS clipboard is the problem here.
>>
>> Jean
>>
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "Sun Sparkle" <sunshine@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>> To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>> Sent: Friday, November 18, 2005 10:45 PM
>> Subject: Re: fs clipboard problem
>>
>>
>>> you know folks this is getting more and more anoying.
>>> the only way to even get the clipboard contents to do what i would
>>> wantis
>>> to do a select all before doing a control c lets just say that is
>>> screwed
>>> up in the sense cause what if you wanted to just select part of what
you
>>> are selecting and the regular clipboard and the fs clipboard dont
allow
>>> you to copy the text like that then what?
>>> just a question
>>> fs needs tofix there mess up on the fs clipboard.
>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>> From: "Nicki Keck" <favorite.blend@xxxxxxxxxxx>
>>> To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>> Sent: Friday, November 18, 2005 7:36 PM
>>> Subject: Re: fs clipboard problem
>>>
>>>
>>>> Sometimes, it doesn't copy when I do this. sometimes, it needs to
>>>> be
>>>> done multiple times.
>>>>
>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>> From: "Bruce Toews" <DogRiver@xxxxxxxx>
>>>> To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>>> Cc: <Jawslite@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>>> Sent: Friday, November 18, 2005 7:40 PM
>>>> Subject: Re: fs clipboard problem
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> Why would you need to clear it? Just do a normal cut or copy to the
>>>>> clipboard and a dialog pops up warning you that this will erase
what's
>>>>> already there, if you've used windows+C. Answer yes to this and
you're
>>>>> good to go.
>>>>>
>>>>> bruce
>>>>>
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>>>>>
>>>>> On Fri, 18 Nov 2005, Sun Sparkle wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> how do you clear what is on the FS clipboard, after pasteing what
you
>>>>>> have either in a document, or email?
>>>>>> for the past 6 weeks i have had to unload JAWS to clear the FS
>>>>>> clipboard and find this very anoying!
>>>>>> so how do you fix this!
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