RE: free daisy player was: RE: JAWS 11

Well, for one thing, there are countries out there besides the US. This
astounding fact may surprise some, but it's true. There will not be a
PC-based solution for NLS books. NLS considers such anotion threatening
for copyright reasons. No player plays RFB&D books right out of the box,
a key must be purchased. As one of those mythical creatures known as a
non-American, I'm glad that a high-quality PC-based solution for reading
books will now be free. IT adds to the choices and is only a good thing.

Bruce


On Thu, 20 Aug 2009 08:43:25 -0500, "Alex Midence"
<alex.midence@xxxxxxxxx> said:
> Hmm.  I didn't know that about the FS Reader.  It seems ridiculous to me
> for
> anyone to manufacture a daisy reader for sale in the U.S. that can not
> access rfb&d and NLS material right out of the box.  I can't think of two
> sources of books that are more frequented by blind users.  At least, not
> in
> the States.  Glad its being included with Jaws 11 then.
> 
> 
> 
> Alex
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On
> Behalf
> Of Michael Malver
> Sent: Saturday, August 15, 2009 8:01 AM
> To: jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Subject: free daisy player was: RE: JAWS 11
> 
> I wonder if the free daisy reader is being included because it just
> wasn't
> selling. I own a victor stream, and had no interest in buying the freedom
> product in addition..  Even before I owned a stream, when I discovered
> the
> freedom scientific daisy player wouldn't be able to play nls books, I
> wrote
> the product off: after all, bookshare gave away a player with their
> service,
> and if you were going to use rfb&d, it was cheaper to buy a player
> through
> them than to buy a third party, and then have to buy a key.
> Just my unasked for speculation.
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On
> Behalf
> Of Ray Foret jr
> Sent: Saturday, August 15, 2009 7:27 AM
> To: jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Subject: Re: JAWS 11
> 
> The little I can tell you is this.
> 
> 1.  JAWS 11 will officially support Windows 7.
> 
> 2.  The FS Daisy reader witch used to cost $79.00 or so will be fully 
> included with JAWS 11.  In short, if you get JAWS 11, you will not have
> the 
> demo version of FS Daisy reader; rather, the full version.  That's all I 
> know for now.
> 
> Sincerely,
> The Constantly BAREFOOTED Ray
> 
> "Old friend, what are you looking for?  After those many years abroad you 
> come With images you tended Under foreign skies Far away from your own
> land"
> George Seferis
> 
> Phone or Fax::
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> Cell:
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> Skype Name:
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> 
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Peter Holdstock" <peterholdstock@xxxxxxx>
> To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Sent: Saturday, August 15, 2009 7:14 AM
> Subject: JAWS 11
> 
> 
> Have there been any bits of info coming out yet about JAWS 11. I haven't
> seen anything!
> 
> Peter
> 
> --------------------------------------------------
> From: "Ray Foret jr" <rforetjr@xxxxxxxxxxx>
> Sent: Saturday, August 15, 2009 1:38 AM
> To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Subject: JAWS 10.0.1154 and tech support:  was:Re: jfw offscreen model or
> focus issue, jfw 10
> 
> > Does the issue I reported on remind you of yours?  The issue was that with
> > JAWS 10.0.1154, I could not navigate message list views in Windows Mail
> > nor
> > file lists in the Explorer environment.  The solution which was found was
> > to
> > delete the JAWS 10 shared items folder and then do a clean install of JAWS
> > 10.0.1154.  It Took John Carson, (an fS tech support supervisor), to solve
> > this.  It should not have taken Mr. Carson to have to take his time out to
> > work with me on this one.  Any FS tech support agent should have been able
> > to suggest the things he suggested.  Every so often, I do have to unload
> > and
> > restart JAWS, and sometimes, I do need to log off and log on again in
> > order
> > to get JAWS to focus correctly.  I can only hope that JAWS 11 is going to
> > be
> > much more stable with regard to all these matters we've been bringing up.
> >
> > Sincerely,
> > The Constantly BAREFOOTED Ray
> >
> > "Old friend, what are you looking for?  After those many years abroad you
> > come With images you tended Under foreign skies Far away from your own
> > land"
> > George Seferis
> >
> > Phone or Fax::
> > +1 (985) 360-3614
> > Cell:
> > +1 (985) 791-2938
> > e-mail:
> > rforetjratcomcastdotnet
> > Skype Name:
> > barefootedray
> >
> > ----- Original Message ----- 
> > From: "paul faucheux" <pf112781@xxxxxxxxx>
> > To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> > Sent: Friday, August 14, 2009 7:22 PM
> > Subject: Re: jfw offscreen model or focus issue, jfw 10
> >
> >
> > HI DAVE WHEN I go a change of screen resolution i find that jfw 9 does not
> > read things at all also i get this in the windows explorer program! i hope
> > that we can find a resolution to this issue. i am sometimes experiencing
> > this in windows mail as well this should hel. by the way my name is paul
> > faucheux! p paul fay
> > ----- Original Message ----- 
> > From: "Dave" <dave.mehler@xxxxxxxxx>
> > To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> > Sent: Friday, August 14, 2009 7:15 PM
> > Subject: RE: jfw offscreen model or focus issue, jfw 10
> >
> >
> >> Hi,
> >> Yah, can you describe your issue that's similar to mine, any thing
> >> in particular seem to trigger it? My fix unfortunately is a reboot.
> >> Thanks.
> >> Dave.
> >>
> >>
> >> -----Original Message-----
> >> From: jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On
> >> Behalf
> >> Of paul faucheux
> >> Sent: Friday, August 14, 2009 8:07 PM
> >> To: jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> >> Subject: Re: jfw offscreen model or focus issue, jfw 10
> >>
> >> hi dave i  have had simular issues before and just unloaded jfw and
> >> reloaded
> >> again!
> >> ----- Original Message -----
> >> From: "Dave" <dave.mehler@xxxxxxxxx>
> >> To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> >> Sent: Friday, August 14, 2009 6:52 PM
> >> Subject: RE: jfw offscreen model or focus issue, jfw 10
> >>
> >>
> >>> Hi,
> >>> I've tried that. My solution is a reboot, this is annoying and
> >>> shouldn't be necessary.
> >>> I've got a separate email in to fs support i'll keep everyone
> >>> informed.
> >>> Thanks.
> >>> Dave.
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> -----Original Message-----
> >>> From: jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On
> >>> Behalf Of Dave Carlson
> >>> Sent: Friday, August 14, 2009 12:46 AM
> >>> To: jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> >>> Subject: Re: jfw offscreen model or focus issue, jfw 10
> >>>
> >>> Dave,
> >>>
> >>> Not JAWS 10 but JAWS 9 will routinely (as much as once a day) stop
> >>> reading list items with the arrow. For example tabbing from the OE
> >>> folder list to the message list is supposed to read the message
> >>> highlighted, but it does not. Only way I've found to quickly remedy is
> >>> to
> >> kill JAWS and re-start.
> >>>
> >>> Dave
> >>>
> >>> ----- Original Message -----
> >>> From: "Dave" <dave.mehler@xxxxxxxxx>
> >>> To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> >>> Sent: Thursday, August 13, 2009 16:01
> >>> Subject: jfw offscreen model or focus issue, jfw 10
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> Hello,
> >>> I'm having a recurring and repeated problem with jfw 10 on multiple
> >>> machines have i seen this. Jaws will stop reading and behave as i've
> >>> got a completely blank screen, icons will not be read arrowing through
> >>> dialog boxes will say no selected items yet not read out what the
> >>> items are. This initially occurred on two laptops one for sure when i
> >>> would lower the screen to conserve battery power this has a wireless
> >>> keyboard on it, and then raise it again, that seemed to start it. Now
> >>> it is happening on a desktop machine as well. I'm not certain if it's
> >>> offscreen model, focus, or something caused whenever video intensive
> >>> apps load. Has anyone else seen this?
> >>> Thanks.
> >>> Dave.
> >>>
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