As I've said before, we've gone clear away from what the list is supposed to be here for. Let's move this to private emails, or another list, please. James, List Admin -----Original Message----- From: jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Kevin Gibbs Sent: April 20, 2009 1:06 PM To: jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: RE: copying or putting into another format Part of the problem is that just because something is on Youtube, doesn't mean it got there legally. You're usually not in a position to figure out whether the content you're viewing is legitimate or not, so stay away. What difference does it make if the video runs or not, and what difference does it make if you listen to it on Youtube or on your own computer. The situation is, if the content is eventually found to be illegal, it can be removed. However, once it's copied to any number of local computers, the damage can't be undone. -----Original Message----- From: jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of alice dampman Sent: Saturday, April 18, 2009 5:36 PM To: jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: OT: copying or putting into another format Hi, Kevin, Maybe I'm not understanding this correctly, but if someone takes a video that is up for all to view on youtube and basically removes the visual component by putting it into an MP3 format so that he/she can listen to it without having to bother with the visual, which is little use to most of us, is that copying? Isn't it only putting what is already available free to all those who watch it on youtube into a more convenient format for us? Thanks. Alice alicedh@xxxxxxxxxxx ----- Original Message ----- From: "Kevin Gibbs" <kevjazz@xxxxxxxxx> To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Saturday, April 18, 2009 12:14 AM Subject: RE: JAWS 10 and youtube videos > Guys, > Be careful. Don't rip off composers and other intellectual property > owners by taking free stuff. Not everything on Youtube is there > legitimately. As a man who lives on his royalty checks, I'm here to > say that you aren't entitled to copy things just because you can. > Kevin -- JFW related links: JFW homepage: http://www.freedomscientific.com/ Scripting mailing list: http://lists.the-jdh.com/listinfo.cgi/scriptography-the-jdh.com JFW List instructions: To post a message to the list, send it to jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx To unsubscribe from this mailing list, send a message to jfw-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with the word unsubscribe in the subject line. Archives located at: //www.freelists.org/archives/jfw Alternative archives located at: http://n2.nabble.com/JAWS-for-Windows-f2145279.html If you have any concerns about the list, post received from the list, or the way the list is being run, do not post them to the list. Rather contact the list owner at jfw-admins@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx -- JFW related links: JFW homepage: http://www.freedomscientific.com/ Scripting mailing list: http://lists.the-jdh.com/listinfo.cgi/scriptography-the-jdh.com JFW List instructions: To post a message to the list, send it to jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx To unsubscribe from this mailing list, send a message to jfw-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with the word unsubscribe in the subject line. Archives located at: //www.freelists.org/archives/jfw Alternative archives located at: http://n2.nabble.com/JAWS-for-Windows-f2145279.html If you have any concerns about the list, post received from the list, or the way the list is being run, do not post them to the list. Rather contact the list owner at jfw-admins@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx