Re: completely uninstalling jaws & DriveScrubber
- From: "Sean McMahon" <smcmahon@xxxxxxxx>
- To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Mon, 6 Dec 2004 13:59:33 -0700
Perhaps the website explains this, but how do you use this program to clean a
drive when you have to have a process running in an operating system to make it
work.
----- Original Message -----
From: "red" <red2003@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Monday, December 06, 2004 12:31 PM
Subject: Re: completely uninstalling jaws & DriveScrubber
> Hi
>
> http://www.iolo.com/ds/
>
> DriveScrubber allows you to safely pass-on your hard drives, safe in the
> knowledge that your personal data is 100% gone, and your data completely
> destroyed. Best of all, DriveScrubber is quick and simple to use, and works
> with any PC, regardless of the drive's format
>
> DriveScrubber is a utility designed to securely wipe all data from any hard
> or floppy drive, regardless of its file format or operating system. Its
> purpose is to ensure the safety, privacy, and security of private,
> personal, confidential, or proprietary information.
>
> Once a drive has been wiped with DriveScrubber, no attempts (regardless of
> their level of sophistication) will be able to recover any data that
> previously existed thereon.
>
> Good Luck
> preston
>
> At 05:13 PM 05/12/2004, you wrote:
> >Hi Will, I just want to say thanks for all the information that you alway
> >post. Unlike some people who a lot of times leave one line answers. I really
> >like all the information that you give. I save your posts so I can refer to
> >it when need be. I like to learn as much as I can. Keep those informative
> >posts coming!
> >----- Original Message -----
> >From: "Will Pearson" <will-pearson@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> >To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> >Sent: Sunday, December 05, 2004 6:37 AM
> >Subject: Re: completely uninstalling jaws
> >
> >
> > > Hi;
> > >
> > > I think it's probably the authorisation key that you are thinking of. The
> > > authorisation key is located in the jfw.cps folder in the root of drive
> > > c:.
> > > The key is the file named jfw.cps within this folder. The folder, and
> > > presumably the file, have both the hidden and system file attributes set,
> > > so
> > > you will have to select to view system files from within the folder
> > > options
> > > multi page dialog.
> > >
> > > If someone's removed the authorisation key using hjauth, and uninstalled
> > > JAWS using the uninstall scripts for InstallShield and they have problems
> > > reinstalling, then it would make me suspicious of a silent failiure in one
> > > of the uninstallation routines. By a silent failiure, I mean that the
> > > uninstaller has encountered a problem uninstalling something and not told
> > > the user about it. The uninstaller may have tried to correct the problem,
> > > it may not have, it may have crashed out with an unhandled exception, or
> > > whatever, it's up to the programmer's, in this case those for
> > > InstallShield,
> > > as to how they handle these situations. Under normal operations
> > > everything
> > > should install and uninstall fine, however, if a system develops "system
> > > rot", which it will do over time, then you can notice problems both with
> > > installation and uninstallation of software, as well as operation of
> > > software. Some registry keys and values can go awry, files on the hard
> > > drive can be corrupted, and settings go wrong. This can mean that an
> > > uninstaller that works fine under normal conditions will develop proglems
> > > under systems with "system rot", likely leaving components installed that
> > > it
> > > otherwise would have removed. Software developers can't do anything about
> > > this really, as the problems depend on what has gone rotten within the
> > > system, something that varies with each instance of "system rot". So, if
> > > you notice uninstallers not removing components, including registry
> > > values,
> > > which you think they should have, uninstallers developing problems or
> > > hangs
> > > during uninstallation, or abnormal execution of the software, then it
> > > might
> > > be time to consider formatting the hard drive and starting again.
> > >
> > > These are exceptional circumstances, but are circumstances that occur from
> > > time to time, and all software packages can be affected, not just JAWS.
> > > If
> > > you frequently install and uninstall software, not necessarily the same
> > > package as different packages are likely to cause it just as much, then
> > > this
> > > can increase the risk of "system rot". Equally, software that has had a
> > > modified installation routine, such as pirated and illegal software, will
> > > significantly increase the risk of "system rot" and things not working
> > > properly.
> > >
> > > Will Pearson
> > >
> > > Microsoft MVP (Visual Developer/VC++)
> > > For more information about the MVP program, go to:
> > > http://mvp.support.microsoft.com
> > > ------ Original Message -----
> > > From: "chevelle" <chevelle33@xxxxxxxxxxx>
> > > To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> > > Sent: Saturday, December 04, 2004 11:14 PM
> > > Subject: Re: completely uninstalling jaws
> > >
> > >
> > >> Hi Will, there was a thread on this subject. From time to time for what
> > > ever
> > >> reason, someone would uninstall Jaws. Then they would try to reinstall
> > > jaws,
> > >> and try to authorize it. They would get a message saying that they all
> > > ready
> > >> had an existing copy of jaws on the hard drive. Debbie Scales at one time
> > >> posted the name of the file, and where to go to delete it, but I can't
> > > find
> > >> that post. That is why I am wanting to know how to completely remove
> > >> Jaws
> > >> from the computer. btw thanks for all that info.
> > >> ----- Original Message -----
> > >> From: "Will Pearson" <will-pearson@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> > >> To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> > >> Sent: Saturday, December 04, 2004 12:33 PM
> > >> Subject: Re: completely uninstalling jaws
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> > Hi;
> > >> >
> > >> > JAWS has one of the better set of uninstallation scripts around. Some
> > >> > uninstallers do leave keys and values in the registry that will, in all
> > >> > likelyhood, cause abnormal software operation under some circumstances,
> > >> > however, the keys and values that JAWS leaves behind, some of which are
> > >> > auto
> > >> > generated by Windows, won't cause abnormal software operation. So,
> > > unless
> > >> > you really know what you are doing when editing a registry, I would
> > > leave
> > >> > them in there, as editing the wrong keys and values will cause your
> > > system
> > >> > to develop unexpected behaviour, and wil probably require you to format
> > >> > your
> > >> > hard drive and start again.
> > >> >
> > >> > Whilst uninstallation of any software is an important aspect when
> > >> > transferring machines between owners, so as to remain within the
> > >> > conditions
> > >> > defined in the individual EULAs for each piece of software, security of
> > >> > personal data should also be considered. When you delete files, such
> > >> > as
> > >> > those in My Documents, they're not actually deleted, even when you
> > >> > empty
> > >> > the
> > >> > Recycle Bin. The 1's and 0's that represent the data on the hard drive
> > >> > are
> > >> > still present, and all that happens is that the file name in the file
> > >> > allocation table changes to indicate that the sectors previously
> > > occupied
> > >> > by
> > >> > that file can be written to once more. Therefore, if someone were to
> > > come
> > >> > along with an unerase tool, such as Unerase Wizard from Symantec, they
> > >> > could
> > >> > recover those files without too many problems. The only way to ensure
> > >> > this
> > >> > doesn't happen, is to overwrite those sectors of the hard drive. This
> > >> > happens quite a lot in normal use, where you're deleting files and then
> > >> > overwriting that space with new files, but if you're deleting files
> > > prior
> > >> > to
> > >> > handing the machine over, then these new files are unlikely to be
> > > created
> > >> > and there's nothing to overwrite the old data on the hard drive.
> > > There's
> > >> > two ways to get around this. Firstly, you can format the hard drive
> > >> > and
> > >> > reinstall Windows and all the necessary device drivers, or you can use
> > >> > a
> > >> > tool such as WipeInfo, which is part of Norton Utilities from Symantec,
> > > to
> > >> > write a set of 1's and 0's to the free space on your hard drive,
> > >> > overwriting
> > >> > all that personal data with garbage.
> > >> >
> > >> > It's certainly something worth considering, and not something a lot of
> > >> > people are aware of, as recently highlighted on BBC Breakfast News,
> > >> > when
> > >> > they ran a piece on a report highlighting this security vulnerability
> > >> > in
> > >> > businesses.
> > >> >
> > >> > Will
> > >> >
> > >> > Microsoft MVP (Visual Developer/VC++)
> > >> > For more information on the MVP Program, go to:
> > >> > http://mvp.support.microsoft.com
> > >> > ----- Original Message -----
> > >> > From: "chevelle" <chevelle33@xxxxxxxxxxx>
> > >> > To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> > >> > Sent: Saturday, December 04, 2004 4:06 PM
> > >> > Subject: Re: completely uninstalling jaws
> > >> >
> > >> >
> > >> >> No, I am not talking about removal of the authorizaation key. I am
> > >> >> talking
> > >> >> about complete removal of Jaws from the hard drive. Even if you
> > > uninstall
> > >> >> jaws from the add/remove I believe there is still something related to
> > >> > jaws
> > >> >> in the registery.
> > >> >> ----- Original Message -----
> > >> >> From: "Horspool, Matthew F." <drjaws@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> > >> >> To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> > >> >> Sent: Saturday, December 04, 2004 3:11 AM
> > >> >> Subject: RE: completely uninstalling jaws
> > >> >>
> > >> >>
> > >> >> > Hi:
> > >> >> >
> > >> >> > At a guess I would say he means the Authorization key as during an
> > >> >> > uninstall JAWS does not request a removal of the authorization key.
> > > If
> > >> >> > anyone can say differently, please speak up!
> > >> >> >
> > >> >> > You can find authorization information in a file called
> > >> >> > Quella authorization key guide.txt
> > >> >> > If you are using JAWS 4.51 and below, the file is called
> > >> >> > Authorization key guide.txt
> > >> >> > I think 3.5 and below called it
> > >> >> > Authoriz.txt
> > >> >> > Or something like that. I can't be certain.
> > >> >> >
> > >> >> > HTH,
> > >> >> > Matthew
> > >> >> >
> > >> >> > -------------------------
> > >> >> > Mr. Matthew F. Horspool
> > >> >> >
> > >> >> > Send me an Electronic Mail to
> > >> >> > drjaws@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > >> >> >
> > >> >> > Add
> > >> >> > horspool@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > >> >> > to your MSN contact list
> > >> >> >
> > >> >> > Or Visit my web site at
> > >> >> > http://www.horspool.pwp.blueyonder.co.uk
> > >> >> > -------------------------
> > >> >> >
> > >> >> > -----Original Message-----
> > >> >> > From: jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On
> > >> >> > Behalf Of chevelle
> > >> >> > Sent: Saturday, December 04, 2004 4:09 AM
> > >> >> > To: jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > >> >> > Subject: completely uninstalling jaws
> > >> >> >
> > >> >> > Hi, after you uninstall jaws from the add/remove or from the tools
> > >> >> > options of jaws. I think someone on this list said to completely
> > > remove
> > >> >> > Jaws you have to remove something from the registery. Is that right?
> > > If
> > >> >> > so what do you remove from the registery to completely remove jaws
> > > from
> > >> >> > the hard drive. Thanks.
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