RE: buying a computer
- From: "Cy" <cselfridge@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Sun, 15 Jan 2006 13:22:57 -0600
Dale,
Stated speed is really misleading indeed.
The AMD processors do not determine their speed the way that Intel does.
The Pentium processors state cycle speed but the AMD processors state
instruction peed much like the "MIPS" used by mainframe computers.
It may well take more than 1 cycle to execute an instruction. I believe
that several years ago there was a term called Whetstone" which was a
specific series of instructions which the processor was to execute in
order to determine exactly how much punch it really had.
My son has a Toshiba laptop with the AMD 64 bit processor.
Cy, the Ancient Okie... withd
-----Original Message-----
From: jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On
Behalf Of Dale Leavens
Sent: Saturday, January 14, 2006 10:12 PM
To: jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: Re: buying a computer
Well like I said, the Centrino processors don't run any faster than 1.7
GHz
as far as I know but the way in which they process many functions is
different and therefore the clock speed isn't the best measure of actual
speed. You can get them with pretty big hard drives and as I said,
probably
a gig of ram is what you will want for best performance and maybe more
depending on what you need to do. Some will want 64 bit processors but
so
far it doesn't look like there are a lot of applications taking
advantage of
that technology. Similarly, I am not aware of many programmes that use
multi
threading technology. Probably the next generation will have more need
for
those capabilities.
You would probably not want to buy a Pentium with much under 3 GHz in a
desktop or a laptop but I wouldn't recommend a Pentium in a laptop for
reasons of power consumption and of course heat.
There is no good reason not to buy a desktop model it is just that I
bought
a pretty reasonable Acer just before Christmas at Circuit City for $945
Canadian, a little light on the memory but I can push it up for another
hundred and fifty bucks for now all it will be doing is a little e-mail
and
word processing.By the time you put a monitor to a desktop the price
gets
pretty similar with no portability, wireless or Infra red.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Michael Baldwin" <mbaldwin@xxxxxxxxx>
To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Saturday, January 14, 2006 10:17 PM
Subject: RE: buying a computer
>I have been looking at new computers. I have thought of a notebook,
>but
>the
> limited clock speeds have me concerned. I think the fastest processor
for
> a
> Dell notebook is 2.26. How do the centrino processors compare to the
> Pentium 4 with HT in desktops? For about the same price I can get a
> desktop
> with a Pentium 4 3.6 with HT. I currently run a Pentium 4 2.0 with
786 Mb
> of RAM, and some times it is not enough computer.
>
> Michael
>
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On
> Behalf Of Dale Leavens
> Sent: Saturday, January 14, 2006 11:55
> To: jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Subject: Re: buying a computer
>
>
> I am really becoming partial to laptop, also known as notebook
> computers. The lower priced ones are very competitive in price too to
> a desktop with monitor but it is much smaller and somehow buying,
> wiring, running a monitor
>
> bothers me. You may need one occasionally for use by sight enabled
> persons when jaws goes belly up and when you don't need it the monitor
> on a notebook
>
> is small and mostly out of the way. The built in mike on both of mine
> appears to be adequate for voice applications like for-the-people and
> Skype.
>
> Both I have now do everything I have needed and with wireless a lot
> more.
> I
> bring it along travelling and a small USB powered scanner and I can
read
> in
> a hotel room, do e-mail and have even used Skype from a hotel.
>
> Even the desk top machines these days are getting small because there
> is little need for additional cards, the machines have most of what
> people need
>
> built in and the cheap Acer I bought just before Christmas has 5 USB
> ports on it so you can hang just about any custom devices on it if you
> want, say a
>
> second sound card, printer or pretty well what ever you could think
> of.
>
> Like Cy said, processor speed isn't usually much concern and on these
> centrino technology chips many functions are processed simultaneously
> so processor speed is a less reliable measure of performance.
>
> So, my advice is to consider a portable machine as a good alternative.
> You can take it with you next hurricane.
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Cy" <cselfridge@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Sent: Saturday, January 14, 2006 10:33 AM
> Subject: RE: buying a computer
>
>
>> Lou,
>> It all depends on what you do with your computer.
>> For those of us who are blind we just really don't need all that
>> blazing speed because we do not play a lot of virtual reality type
>> games. Most any computer over about 1.5 GHZ processor speed will
>> process Eloquence nicely. Now, this may well sound like herisy but,
>> you just might want to look into a mini Mac because their new Tiger
>> operating system includes a screen reader. Otherwise Consumer Reports
>> gave the E Machine a very good rating. If you wish please contact me
>> privately so James won't have a stroke. cselfridge@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>> Look forward to hearing from you.
>> Cy, the Ancient Okie...
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On
>> Behalf Of Louana
>> Sent: Saturday, January 14, 2006 6:03 AM
>> To: jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>> Subject: buying a computer
>>
>>
>> Hi all, I am needing to buy a new computer. I would like to get some
>> input from you all on what kinds you are using. I need some specific
>> information on processor speed, hard drive size among other things. I
>> have no idea on what to buy. The one I have is five years old and was
>> in my apartment with water after Katrina for about two weeks before I
>> could get it out and I am afraid it will not last much longer. Thanks
>> for any help you all can give. Lou
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