Hi Debbie, It was very clear and I thank you very much. I just went into autoformat and unchecked automatic bulleting and I hope that does the trick. Thanks for your help, Judith ----- Original Message ----- From: "Debbie Kessler" <jessesgirl@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Saturday, June 04, 2005 2:47 PM Subject: Re: "bullet" > Hi Judith; > If you are editing a document sent to you from someone else, you won't necessarily know what their settings were in their Word application. You can turn off automatic bulleted and automatic numbered lists under auto format which will help you. Remember that the "space" after any text contains the formatting of that previous text. For example: if I have a title that is bolded, underlined, and size 20 font Somewhere in my document. Then I have several blank lines and or spaces. My lower text is not bolded, underlined, and is a 14 size font. I place my cursor at the beginning of the lower text and backspace all the way back to the title. Hope you are following me. Now, I want to come down one line, so I press the "ENTER key and move my text to the next line. I have succeeded in getting rid of any extra spaces and lines; but any text I type at this point will have the bold, underline, and font size of 20 in that text. Because blind people move their cursor around to hear what is > happening, they face this problem more than sighted persons. I will often backspace back to and delete a period of a previous sentence, just to get rid of any extra spaces or lines. I then just put the period back in. But, if that previous line had different formatting than any text I might type at this point will have picked up on that previous formatting. In the example I gave above, I would then turn off the bold, underline, and change the font size to my desired size. You know, with "ctrl + B" and "ctrl + U" before typing any additional text. So, to answer your question as to how a bullet or number gets there. If you didn't inadvertently put one there then I would ask if you are looking at a document prepared by someone else. There is a shortcut key to turn on bullets of which I cannot recall at the moment. But, you would normally have to make an effort to bullet something and so you would definitely know about it. > If you are up and down arrowing so that jaws reads the line and you hear that there is a number or bullet that was put in from the auto format, you will not hear it by moving the cursor over it with your left and right arrows. This has something to do with how the auto format is set up and jaws cannot see this number or bullet. If turning off auto format is not an option, when you enter to add another line of text, check by having jaws read line to make sure there are no new numbers or bullets. If you hear one you do not want, press backspace and read your line again with the read line keystroke. If you backspace all the way back to the previous line, and press enter again, you will pick up on the previous formatting again, hence putting that number or bullet back in. > Good checking keys are: jaws read line, jaws read attributes, and jaws read line and column of carrot. > If turning off auto formatting is not an issue, then do that because it will save you from having to pay for headache medication. > If this is not clear, which I fear, please let me know. > Debbie & Jesse > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Judith Bron > To: jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > Sent: Thursday, June 02, 2005 6:03 AM > Subject: "bullet" > > > On one of my manuscripts the word "bullet" has shown up before one of my subsections. I always took this to mean another form of a link but this is not a link. Is there a way to get rid of this word? Does it mean anything? 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