gene sorry to inform you most of the bugs i mention in my list are already acknowledge mby f s so not sure why all the steps you are talking about are required. by the way i know all the steps to reporting bugs and used to be a beta tester for jfw. i also know that many reporting bugs in the proper manor go ignored. not to mention the most importan thing on my list, those that do not know the proper manor, well with an error reporting tool that picks up the slack. in fact an error reporting tool can actually give more info than even a informed bug tester. it can tell what the other application is that jfw is having issues with. by the way their are many things i would like to see that i left off my list. mostly script enhancements and not new features to the core of the softwarer. dream list, you may be write their, expecting f s to do these minamal request may be a dream. lets hope not though. bill -- To post a message to the list, send it to jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx To unsubscribe from this mailing list, send a message to jfw-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with the word unsubscribe in the subject line. Archives located at: //www.freelists.org/archives/jfw If you have any concerns about the list, post received from the list, or the way the list is being run, do not post them to the list. Rather contact the list owner at jfw-admins@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx