Re: bug list you want fixed

I feel it necessary to point out something else here. FS, or any other 
company for that matter, is not in business to employ the blind. Nor will 
they, or should they, give anyone out side the company a voice in how things 
are done. That is just business. We are customers, nothing more nothing 
less.

Gene


----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Gene" <guystevens@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Wednesday, April 13, 2005 12:40 AM
Subject: Re: bug list you want fixed


> The problem with public beta testing in general is that very few people 
> are
> going to go through the steps necessary to accurately report a bug.
> Secondly, not many people know enough about the systems they use to tell 
> the
> difference between a bug in JFW and another problem.
>
> Gene
>
>
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "jim grimsby" <jimgrims@xxxxxxxxxxx>
> To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Sent: Wednesday, April 13, 2005 12:17 AM
> Subject: RE: bug list you want fixed
>
>
>> The problem is here that the public beta system was out of control
>> before.  Here is what needs to be done. =20
>> 1.  a sheet listing all the known bugs and the bugs that have been
>> fixed.  This form should be cent out with a public beta mark yes if
>> fixed no if not fixed or nt for not tested.  After each user goes threw
>> this list checking things off the beta should have a bugcila where a
>> user can go directly to file the report feeling out the questions on
>> said bugcela.  A list that fs does monitor should be setup for and only
>> the reporting of said bugs.  A format matching that of the bug sheet
>> should be set forth from the get go. In other words bug number your
>> cereal number -bx where x is the number of bugs filed by that cereal
>> number.
>> Nature of problem=20
>> Operating system where problem accurse. =20
>> Complete and detailed description of problem with steps to follow to
>> reproduce said problem.  3 strikes rule meaning if you do not follow the
>> rules of the list in reporting bugs you are gone.
>> Note no replies of I saw that to.  This should happen on a list like
>> this where you go first to confirm bugs. Fs should not have tomoniter
>> this list.  A tech list should be setup where you can get support one
>> member of fs should monitor this list and provide feedback.   Replies of
>> I have this problem to can you help me should not accor on this list.  A
>> person should monitor the hole thread before replying.  A three strikes
>> rule should apply to this list also.  This will one create one more job
>> for a blind person working for fs and do not tell me they do not have
>> the money for it.  And two will make sure that the user has one support
>> and two a voice in the company. =20
>> Hth=20
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On
>> Behalf Of Gene
>> Sent: Tuesday, April 12, 2005 7:28 PM
>> To: jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>> Subject: Re: bug list you want fixed
>>
>>
>> And unfortunately this is why public beta testing is being phased out by
>>
>> many companies.
>>
>> Gene
>>
>>
>> ----- Original Message -----=20
>> From: "jim grimsby" <jimgrims@xxxxxxxxxxx>
>> To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>> Sent: Tuesday, April 12, 2005 9:44 PM
>> Subject: RE: bug list you want fixed
>>
>>
>>>
>>>
>>> How about control+down arrow in notepad and wordpad to skip by=20
>>> paragraphs? Jim That is not a bug but a feature request.  If we are=20
>>> going to talk about fixing problems and stability like gene said we=20
>>> should be talking about bugs and problems.  Feature is  I would like=20
>>> to have built in mirc support.  A bug when I use msn when an alert=20
>>> comes on line I am unable to read anything else tell the alert goes=20
>>> away. =3D20 Feature I want a better sounding voice.  Bug every time my =
>>
>>> synthesizer sees a capital letter it gets stuck in a hire pitch. =3D20
>>> Hth=3D20
>>> At 02:12 AM 4/12/2005, you wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>>please apend any bugs you want fixed to this message.
>>>>then we can send it to f s.
>>>>
>>>>hmm first get  snow man back to working on m s n messenger scripts.=20
>>>>he=3D20 does a better job.
>>>>
>>>>add the typing sound in m s n to A O L instant messenger.
>>>>
>>>>fix access 32.
>>>>
>>>>consider adding access 32 into jfw so one has 2 choice and less=20
>>>>hassle=3D20 installing.
>>>>
>>>>fix the jfw find  bug in i e.
>>>>
>>>>fix any bugs or lack of support for features with accent s A.
>>>>
>>>>fix any bugs with triple talk.
>>>>
>>>>add a hot key and manual option for progress bar indicators.
>>>>
>>>>fix whole numbers so jfw can read numbers the way it did in the =
>> old=3D20
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>>>>days.
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>>>>fix right application key so it gives accurate info when using=20
>>>>virtual=3D20 p c cursor.
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>>>>consider adding an error reporting tool.
>>>>
>>>>then consider a public beta, much easier if you have an error=20
>>>>reporting
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>>>>tool.
>>>>
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>>>>then fix any bugs that the tool finds that crash jfw.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>consider adding 2 extra authorizations, so it will be five as it=20
>>>>used=3D20 to be.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>consider a toggle hot key to turn flash support off and on.
>>>>
>>>>that would be a fix for when jfw loops in flash.
>>>>
>>>>fix the flash loop bug.
>>>>
>>>>continue improving the hot key for find same type of html link.
>>>>
>>>>would be great if jfw supported the braille note as a hardware synth.
>>>>
>>>>consider lowerring the cost on jfw  pro  so average folks will buy=20
>>>>it=3D20 and remote desktop.
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>>>>bill
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