Re: beginning to think that JAWS 5.1 is more stable than 6
- From: Chris Skarstad <toonhead5@xxxxxxxxxxx>
- To: jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
- Date: Sun, 02 Jan 2005 16:01:24 -0600
Well, remember that the synthesizer you're using also factors into the
numbers and how they are read. Both JAWS and the synthesizer work together
on that one. So if it's not reading something correctly, it might be the
synth's problem and not the screenreader.
It is annoying i know.
At 03:36 PM 1/2/2005, you wrote:
>I have the ILM installed, not form the CD, but I put in the number FS gave
>me manually, if that's a help, drop me an email.
>----- Original Message -----
>From: <ptusing@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>Sent: Sunday, January 02, 2005 4:27 PM
>Subject: Re: beginning to think that JAWS 5.1 is more stable than 6
>
>
> > In fairness, I must say JAWS 6 agreeing with Bruce is more stable and
> > works
> > much better than 5.1 but I was always a bigger fan of JAWS 5.0038.
> > I figured out that reading list views often requires using "read current
> > line" since they are often silent but one can use letters to get through
> > listviews.'Again, F S did not implement "read whole number"
> > correctly--delimiteres are read right in emails--I am talking about the
> > needfor better number reading efficiently elsewhere since numbers
> > are
> > so important. We get to set the "control insert arrow"thing again.
> > Dangit.
> >
> > JAWS 6 does show " some improvement working with MAGIC at the sametime
> > and
> > since I cross tested every MAGIC version with the 4 JAWS versions I have,
> > I
> > now believe the F S take on video cards made by ATI may be less correct
> > than they think since J 6 tolerates simultaneous MAGIC/JAWS use
> > "better".
> > (However list of video cards for use with MAGIC and JAWS still is not
> > available). I suspect problems relate more to which JAWS version not
> > the
> > video card.
> > Now, amazingly, every JAWS version since 4.51 has yielded different
> > results
> > using my cherished "s" keystroke which saves me 70% searching time on
> > very
> > extensive web sites, shoppingsites etc. and with J 6, some text links are
> > skipped capriciously or entirely depending on the site with graphics found
> > instead but the "s" is quirky whereas it worked great with 4.5 and 4.51.
> > Of course a broken "s" key comand is better than none as saving time
> > these
> > hectic days means more time not working.
> > Finally JAWS 6 is more responsive and better meaning faster at
> > proofreading text in email messages and I appreciate it.
> > Hope they finally give us great number reading with a" single keystroke
> > past those delimeters like decimals and keep working on the "s".
> > When some one installs the i l m, could they please write me off list
> > with instructions for doing it in detail as I disagree that clear and
> > adequate info is available now but do not wish to start a fight.
> > Happy New Year to all and thanks to the help given here onthis great
> > list.
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Bruce Toews" <water_drinker@xxxxxxxx>
> > To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> > Sent: Sunday, January 02, 2005 2:34 PM
> > Subject: Re: beginning to think that JAWS 5.1 is more stable than 6
> >
> >
> >> This is odd, and proof positive that different people experience
> >> different
> >> results. It's been my experience that JAWS 6, at least on my work
> >> computer
> >> where I've been able to try it, has been quite a lot more stable than
> >> 5.1.
> >> So ... go figure.
> >>
> >> Bruce
> >>
> >> --
> >> Bruce Toews
> >> E-mail and MSN/Windows Messenger: water_drinker@xxxxxxxx
> >> Web Site (including info on my weekly commentaries): http://www.ogts.net
> >> For information on my weekly radio show visit
> >> http://radioclassics.ogts.net
> >>
> >> On Sun, 2 Jan 2005, Ray Foret Jr. wrote:
> >>
> >> > Dear Tracey Jackson and JFW list,
> >> >
> >> > After nearly a week or so with JAWS 6, and after having done 4
> >> > installations of JAWS 6 and reconfiguring manually all my settings each
> > time
> >> > but the first two, and after having done quite a bit of browsing on the
> >> > internet, and after having experienced problems with how JFW version 6
> >> > behaves with Windows Messenger, and after having audio skipping issues
> > with
> >> > JFW version 6 and not any of these issues with JAWS version 5.1, I am
> >> > beginning to come to the conclusion that JAWS 6 is quite a bit of a
> >> > step
> >> > backward rather than forward. Some sluggishness still remains with my
> >> > keyboard, I still cannot resolve the Windows Messenger issues with
> >> > names
> > of
> >> > contacts signing in and not being announced without also having option
> > 12
> >> > JAWS Messages turned on (this was not necessary with JAWS 5.1). Pages
> > are
> >> > taking much longer to load with JAWS version 6 than they ever did with
> > JAWS
> >> > 5.1. There are just so many issues I have found that I may revert back
> > to
> >> > JAWS 5.1. I'm willing to wait to see if the ILM version of JAWS
> >> > version
> > 6
> >> > behaves better than the Quella version of JAWS version 6 I'm now using;
> > but,
> >> > if all of the behavior factors I mentioned above remain the same, I
> >> > will
> >> > most likely switch back to 5.1. I'd kind of hate to do that because
> >> > I'd
> >> > like to believe that FS. always moves forward with progress of this
> > product.
> >> > It does seem to me, however, that, despite the best of advice which I
> > have
> >> > had directly from FS tech support and from others who are very
> > knowledgeable
> >> > about JAWS, many an issue yet remains with at least the Quella version
> > of
> >> > JAWS 6. IF the ILM version of JAWS version 6 proves no better, I may
> > revert
> >> > to JAWS version 5.1 upon installing my new hard drive. I still have a
> > key
> >> > on floppy disk which I could use, however, if I do switch back to JAWS
> >> > version 5.1, would I be better off using the ILM version or just stick
> > with
> >> > the Quella? If anybody else out there can shed some light on this
> > matter,
> >> > I'd appreciate it very much.
> >> >
> >> > Sincerely Yours,
> >> >
> >> > The Constantly BAREFOOTED
> >> > Ray
> >> >
> >> > Home Phone And Fax: (985)853-0139
> >> > E-mail and Windows Messenger:
> >> > rforetjr@xxxxxxxxx
> >> >
> >> > God Bless President George W Bush
> >> > God Bless America
> >> > And God Bless Our Troops
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
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