RE: another potential bug in 7.1

Hi now ser that is ridiculous and not  what is going on.  You know what you
are paying for an update to a program that you use everyday.  You also know
it is going to give you more access to more programs and give you more
features. So please if we are going to make a comparison let it at least be
some what accurate. 

Jim Grimsby JR.
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-----Original Message-----
From: jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf
Of Ricque
Sent: Thursday, June 22, 2006 11:19 PM
To: jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: Re: another potential bug in 7.1


I'll tell you what!
You send me $120, and sometime between now and this time next year, I'll
send you 2 of something, but I can't tell you what they are, or even 
what they'll do.
But you will still feel good about spending the money, since that is what 
you are doing already. lol
Ricque
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Bruce Toews" <DogRiver@xxxxxxxx>
To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Thursday, June 22, 2006 11:33 PM
Subject: Re: another potential bug in 7.1


Then you'll just be paying more for the product.

Bruce

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On Thu, 22 Jun 2006, Ricque wrote:

> Hi Barry,
> No, what I'm stating is simply this!
> I am not paying advance for a product that doesn't exist.
> I don't have near the problems with the product that others do, so 
> when they are ready to ship me a cd, then that's when I will part with 
> my hard-earned money.
> Ricque
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Barry Campbell" <jazzlion1@xxxxxxxxxxx>
> To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Sent: Thursday, June 22, 2006 4:17 PM
> Subject: RE: another potential bug in 7.1
>
>
> I don't understand what you all are going to wait for with regards to 
> installing the final version of 7.1.  This is the final version.  The 
> next release will be version 8 which is slated to be published in 
> December. Speaking as a computer programmer who has been in the 
> business for 23 years everyone must report all bugs to freedom no 
> matter how trivial you think they are and no matter whether you have 
> seen someone post this  same bug on
> any discussion list.  You must report your system configuration, version 
> of
> operating system and version of the program you are having the problems
> with.  When my shop received error reports we first looked at the problems
> that were reported by the highest number of people because this
> statistically would be the problem that would effect the most users even 
> if
> they did not report the problem.  Also a company like Freedom is going to
> spend more time fixing bugs or adding enhancments to Jaws  for the 
> programs
> most utilized by the public.  For example jfw 7.0 started working with
> Mozilla firefox/thunderbird because the market requested that it be a part
> of the next version because many shops are using these products.  This is
> why you don't see much or any effort for outdated versions of software 
> such
> as office 97 or rbase 5000 or dbase because the market has swung away from
> these products.
>
>
> Also by stating I will not pay for SMA's until they make a package 
> that is more stable, is absolutely rediculas.  What you are stating is 
> I don't want to further the production of Jaws because both the SMA's 
> and new purchases fuel the production teams budget for the product.  
> If you are that unhappy with jaws then make the commitment to either 
> be a part of the solution or drop the product and go to Window Eyes or 
> any other screen reading software
> on the market.
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On 
> Behalf Of George Marshall
> Sent: Thursday, June 22, 2006 1:59 PM
> To: jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Subject: Re: another potential bug in 7.1
>
>
> Hi Jim & all:
> I downloaded 7.1 last night (3 hours on a dial-up) and after reading 
> some
> of
>
> these emails this morning I am also going to wait about installing it. 
> Thanks, George R. Marshall geom4@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Jim" <jimscave@xxxxxxxxxx>
> To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Sent: Thursday, June 22, 2006 12:17 AM
> Subject: Re: another potential bug in 7.1
>
>
>> Hiya listers,
>>
>> Just downloaded Jaws 7.1 but just been monitoring all you great 
>> people thru the beta process as living alone here kind of panic if 
>> Jaws fails speech etc so didn't want to put myself thru the beta 
>> process. I'm now reluctant to install the full version I just 
>> downloaded hearing the problems already as I'm still getting over the 
>> bugs in 7.0.
>>
>> Anyway I think I'll keep monitoring you guys before installing 7.1 
>> and see how bad this all is as one of my biggest pet hates if if 
>> something works in an older version IT SHOULD work in the newer 
>> version and only new Microsoft software and software updates in 
>> general should cause bugs for new releases of Jaws. This program 
>> wasn't cheap but alot of money. I want FS to get it RIGHT not nearly 
>> right as things that worked great in version
>
>> 5.10 failed to work in 7 now I hear its continuing in 7.1
>>
>> Thanks again folks for listening to my whinge of the day I'm sure 
>> alot of you will agree with me.
>>
>> cheers,
>>
>> Jim from Oz
>>
>>
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "Allison Mervis" <allisonfm@xxxxxxxxx>
>> To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>> Sent: Thursday, June 22, 2006 12:21 PM
>> Subject: another potential bug in 7.1
>>
>>
>>> Hi all!
>>> This didn't happen the first few times i ran outlook express with 
>>> 7.1, but now, whenever I close OE, I lose speech entirely. I assume 
>>> the jaws window is up, but I get no speech no  matter what I press. 
>>> Oddly enough, however, when I shut down the computer via key 
>>> strokes, speech returns during the shut down process. This is a 
>>> terrible inconvenience. I should not have to keep my OE window open 
>>> all of the time in order to retain speech. It looks like another 
>>> beta might have been a wise choice before releasing this version of 
>>> jaws. Allison
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