RE: another potential bug in 7.1
- From: "Barry Campbell" <jazzlion1@xxxxxxxxxxx>
- To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Thu, 22 Jun 2006 16:17:36 -0400
I don't understand what you all are going to wait for with regards to
installing the final version of 7.1. This is the final version. The next
release will be version 8 which is slated to be published in December.
Speaking as a computer programmer who has been in the business for 23 years
everyone must report all bugs to freedom no matter how trivial you think
they are and no matter whether you have seen someone post this same bug on
any discussion list. You must report your system configuration, version of
operating system and version of the program you are having the problems
with. When my shop received error reports we first looked at the problems
that were reported by the highest number of people because this
statistically would be the problem that would effect the most users even if
they did not report the problem. Also a company like Freedom is going to
spend more time fixing bugs or adding enhancments to Jaws for the programs
most utilized by the public. For example jfw 7.0 started working with
Mozilla firefox/thunderbird because the market requested that it be a part
of the next version because many shops are using these products. This is
why you don't see much or any effort for outdated versions of software such
as office 97 or rbase 5000 or dbase because the market has swung away from
these products.
Also by stating I will not pay for SMA's until they make a package that is
more stable, is absolutely rediculas. What you are stating is I don't want
to further the production of Jaws because both the SMA's and new purchases
fuel the production teams budget for the product. If you are that unhappy
with jaws then make the commitment to either be a part of the solution or
drop the product and go to Window Eyes or any other screen reading software
on the market.
-----Original Message-----
From: jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf
Of George Marshall
Sent: Thursday, June 22, 2006 1:59 PM
To: jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: Re: another potential bug in 7.1
Hi Jim & all:
I downloaded 7.1 last night (3 hours on a dial-up) and after reading some of
these emails this morning I am also going to wait about installing it.
Thanks, George R. Marshall geom4@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
----- Original Message -----
From: "Jim" <jimscave@xxxxxxxxxx>
To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Thursday, June 22, 2006 12:17 AM
Subject: Re: another potential bug in 7.1
> Hiya listers,
>
> Just downloaded Jaws 7.1 but just been monitoring all you great people
> thru the beta process as living alone here kind of panic if Jaws fails
> speech etc so didn't want to put myself thru the beta process. I'm now
> reluctant to install the full version I just downloaded hearing the
> problems already as I'm still getting over the bugs in 7.0.
>
> Anyway I think I'll keep monitoring you guys before installing 7.1 and
> see
> how bad this all is as one of my biggest pet hates if if something works
> in an older version IT SHOULD work in the newer version and only new
> Microsoft software and software updates in general should cause bugs for
> new releases of Jaws. This program wasn't cheap but alot of money. I want
> FS to get it RIGHT not nearly right as things that worked great in version
> 5.10 failed to work in 7 now I hear its continuing in 7.1
>
> Thanks again folks for listening to my whinge of the day I'm sure alot
> of
> you will agree with me.
>
> cheers,
>
> Jim from Oz
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Allison Mervis" <allisonfm@xxxxxxxxx>
> To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Sent: Thursday, June 22, 2006 12:21 PM
> Subject: another potential bug in 7.1
>
>
>> Hi all!
>> This didn't happen the first few times i ran outlook express with
>> 7.1,
>> but now, whenever I close OE, I lose speech entirely. I assume the jaws
>> window is up, but I get no speech no matter what I press. Oddly enough,
>> however, when I shut down the computer via key strokes, speech returns
>> during the shut down process. This is a terrible inconvenience. I should
>> not have to keep my OE window open all of the time in order to retain
>> speech. It looks like another beta might have been a wise choice before
>> releasing this version of jaws.
>> Allison
>>
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