Of course jaws is not windows and the shift alt command is a windows and jaws command like the down arrow. Up arrow etc. Not sure why this is such a hard concept for jaws users to understand. There is no magic separation between jaws and windows commands. Every key you press once jaws is loaded goes threw jaws jaws decides what to do with it and windows only gets it once jaws has decided what jaws it self needs to do. In effect a screen reader user controls windows from the screen reader. Every screen reader works this way. So when you press alt shift jaws sends this command to windows then does checking to see what happened after it is pressed then it reports back to you what happened. Same with the up arrow down arrow etc. you press it jaws gets the command sends it to the program then performs code asking the program how the moving cursor or high light move then speaks the information jaws deem relevant. Now for the uk keyboard it has symbols on it for money and a alt accent key. I do not know all the things it has for I do not use said keyboard. -----Original Message----- From: jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Yardbird Sent: Tuesday, May 01, 2007 3:01 PM To: jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: Re: alt+shift No, Jaws isn't Windows, for one thing. If you mean something different, please express it differently. And it took a long time before someone explained that this was just how to get Jaws to report that you'd changed your keyboard layout from English to Russian, let's say. I still have no idea what you're talking about with this idea of a British English keyboard, except maybe it's got characters for British money in the uppercase position on the num row, instead of a dollar sign, a pounds sterling sign, or something? I don't mind being wrong, but I would like to know what you're saying. Thanks. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jim Grimsby JR." <jimgrims@xxxxxxxxxxx> To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Tuesday, May 01, 2007 1:07 PM Subject: RE: alt+shift Windows isn't jaws? I thought jaws read windows? So what it does in windows is changes the keyboard layout. Jaws then reports to the user the change that was maid. Not sure I understand the question but I did my best. -----Original Message----- From: jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Yardbird Sent: Tuesday, May 01, 2007 11:51 AM To: jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: Re: alt+shift Jim, I meant in Windows! What does it do in Windows? Windows isn't Jaws. Thanks. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jim Grimsby JR." <jimgrims@xxxxxxxxxxx> To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Tuesday, May 01, 2007 11:33 AM Subject: RE: alt+shift Yard bird the enhancement is simply you are told witch langwige you have switched to. As many jaws windows commands do. -----Original Message----- From: jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Yardbird Sent: Tuesday, May 01, 2007 11:01 AM To: jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: Re: alt+shift It is? Well, Chris, in what sense has it been "enhanced?" Do you actually mean kidnapped? What is it supposed to do as a purely Windows command? Do you happen to know? Chirs, ----- Original Message ----- From: "Christopher Hallsworth" <chrishallsworth@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Tuesday, May 01, 2007 10:42 AM Subject: Re: alt+shift This is a Windows command that has been enhanced by JAWS hence the announcement. Hope that helps. On Tue, 1 May 2007 11:36:57 -0600, "Bobcat" <bobcat11@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> said: > Is this a Jaws command or a Windows command? Alt plus shift toggles a > setting which makes Jaws say alternatively, English Canada then > English United states. > > Remember some people were talking about Jaws starting to announce > English United States? I accidentally hit alt+shift one day and heard > that announcement. I hit it again and it said English Canada. > > I checked to be sure the language bar is off. I even went so far as > to also turn it of in Jaws options, basic settings, windows system > parameters. > > I just alt tabbed from the Jaws window back to this OE window and Jaws > said English Canada. I had toggled the setting to Canada and Jaws was > telling me that what it is set to for this window or application. It > only makes the announcement if the language is different from the > previous window. > > Bobcat > > -- > JFW related links: > JFW homepage: http://www.freedomscientific.com/ > Scripting mailing list: > http://lists.the-jdh.com/listinfo.cgi/scriptography-the-jdh.com > JFW List instructions: > To post a message to the list, send it to jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx To > unsubscribe from this mailing list, send a message to > jfw-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with the word unsubscribe in the subject > line. Archives located at: //www.freelists.org/archives/jfw > > If you have any concerns about the list, post received from the list, > or the way the list is being run, do not post them to the list. 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