hi list, just got a demo of jaws 8.0 and can't seem to get anywhere in navigating the web. i am a hal user of many years, and there doesn't seem to be any logic to how jaws navigates. i have followed the surfs up guide, but can't seem to access the sample pages when clicking on the links with jaws, no probs with hal. also, when filling in form fields, jaws just keeps throwing me out saying something like entering tables when i press any letter, i do go in to forms mode, using xp sp2 and ie6. can anyone explain to me where I'm going wrong? many thanks. http://www.secretsthatwekeep.com/003 Simon creator and owner of the winmx4theblind mailing list. to find out more visit http://groups.google.com/group/winmx4theblind Group email address winmx4theblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx msn, simodowl@xxxxxxxxxxx skype, slifinger