If you run win98, jaws still requires you to toggle the echo to all for good access to console applications such as telnet and the cygwin environment. However, if you use winxp, you can keep the echo to highlighted and jaws will read practically everything on the screen. Jaws still has some problems either clearing it's buffer or this may be problems related to clearing the screen from the windows api. For example, when I exited out of cygwin, jaws still spoke some cygwin info when i put focus on another application. A disterbing note about jaws and focus reguarding text editors: I was unable to place focus from the window of my text editor back to jaws by using alt-tab. Could have been anything that caused, maybe some background process, I wanted you to be aware of it. When alt-tabbing from my editor, called pfe32, jaws did not read the title bar or menu bar of jaws but of my editor. However when I went to close what I thought was pfe32, jaws gave me the quit jaws for windows dialog. My focus would read pfe32 twice eventhough I only had one instance of this program open. I don't know if this is a re-producable error, just wanted to make you aware. Sean -- To post a message to the list, send it to jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx To unsubscribe from this mailing list, send a message to jfw-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with the word unsubscribe in the subject line. Archives located at: //www.freelists.org/archives/jfw If you have any concerns about the list, post received from the list, or the way the list is being run, do not post them to the list. Rather contact the list owner at jfw-admins@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx