Re: Why I am not going to use JAWS

not to mention that whenever you update your operationg system, you have to go 
through authorization again 

On Dec 21, 2010, at 9:54 AM, Tim wrote:

> Most pieces of software only make you reauthorize if you change a significant 
> piece of hardware--a motherboard or perhaps a hard drive. Adding or removing 
> a stick of RAM should not be a cause for concern. Nor should plugging in a 
> USB device. Think about it. Microsoft does not make you reauthorize your 
> Operating System just because you plug in a USB device. Neither do all of 
> your other programs. The computer world would grind to a halt if this were 
> the case.
> 
> The irony of this whole situation is that Freedom Scientific designed their 
> software this way. Despite this fact they punish people for using too many 
> reauthorizations. We should expect more from a program that costs somewhere 
> around $1,000 with constant expensive upgrades.
> 
> Tim
> 
> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Brandon Misch" <bmisch2002@xxxxxxxxx>
> To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Sent: Tuesday, December 21, 2010 8:11 AM
> Subject: Re: Why I am not going to use JAWS
> 
> 
> you like making there scheems so that when you change a hardware device in 
> your pc you have to reauthorize again?
> 
> On Dec 21, 2010, at 8:37 AM, Tim wrote:
> 
>> Some of us, myself included, are absolutely fed up with Freedom Scientific's 
>> policies and certain aspects of their products. Many times, change only 
>> comes when customers demand it. This is not whining. Freedom Scientific has 
>> been nickle and diming its customers to death and giving them bad user 
>> agreements for years and it is time that they know that we know that there 
>> are alternatives out there.
>> 
>> Tim
>> 
>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "David" <davidwhitehead1957@xxxxxxxxx>
>> To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>> Sent: Tuesday, December 21, 2010 7:19 AM
>> Subject: Re: Why I am not going to use JAWS
>> 
>> 
>> here we go again;
>> it wasn't good enough to announce your departure on the other list?
>> 
>> are you still looking for followers?
>> 
>> are you ever going to stop wining?
>> so use your NVDA, who cares.
>> 
>> I have 4 screen readers on this machine,
>> although jaws is my primary reader.
>> 
>> if your gonna leave, go quietly.
>> 
>> 
>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "chris hallsworth" 
>> <christopherh40@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>> To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>> Sent: Tuesday, December 21, 2010 7:57 AM
>> Subject: Re: Why I am not going to use JAWS
>> 
>> 
>>> Hi.
>>> I understand now. It's called NVDA. This is all I will say since this
>>> would be inappropriate.
>>> Take care.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Chris Hallsworth
>>> You can contact me at the following channels:
>>> E-mail and Facebook: challsworth2@xxxxxxx
>>> MSN: ch9675@xxxxxxxxxxx
>>> Skype: chrishallsworth7266
>>> Twitter: http://twitter.com/christopherh40
>>> 
>>> On 21/12/2010 12:43, Zdenek Vopat wrote:
>>>> what  screen readingg software are you going to use?
>>>> Zdenek
>>>> 
>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>> From: "chris hallsworth"<christopherh40@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>>> To:<jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>>> Sent: Tuesday, December 21, 2010 1:17 PM
>>>> Subject: Re: Why I am not going to use JAWS
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>>> Hi.
>>>>> I don't understand.
>>>>> Take care.
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> Chris Hallsworth
>>>>> You can contact me at the following channels:
>>>>> E-mail and Facebook: challsworth2@xxxxxxx
>>>>> MSN: ch9675@xxxxxxxxxxx
>>>>> Skype: chrishallsworth7266
>>>>> Twitter: http://twitter.com/christopherh40
>>>>> 
>>>>> On 21/12/2010 12:13, Zdenek Vopat wrote:
>>>>>> hello Chirss:
>>>>>> is thatsoftware that you are going to use and that is more stable NVDA?
>>>>>> Many thanks.
>>>>>> Zdenek
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>>>> From: "chris hallsworth"<christopherh40@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>>>>> To:<jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>>>>> Sent: Tuesday, December 21, 2010 1:05 PM
>>>>>> Subject: Why I am not going to use JAWS
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Hello all.
>>>>>>> I will publicly state why I am refusing to use JAWS. It is Freedom
>>>>>>> Scientific's attitude towards pricing and their license schemes. Some
>>>>>>> of
>>>>>>> us can't or won't afford to buy JAWS, especially if the free one is
>>>>>>> just
>>>>>>> as good as JAWS. As for the license scheme, the user is punished to
>>>>>>> license JAWS on up to three machines. With the free and even other
>>>>>>> commercial screen readers one can install on as many computers as they
>>>>>>> have so long as one machine is used at a time, no questions asked.
>>>>>>> With
>>>>>>> JAWS, once all three authorizations have been used they would then
>>>>>>> have
>>>>>>> to request FS for more keys. Eventually and I will say eventually they
>>>>>>> will refuse flat and get paranoid about people sharing authorization
>>>>>>> keys. I understand piracy and all that and I certainly don't commit to
>>>>>>> any of that stuff however at the same time FS is just asking for money
>>>>>>> and not caring about the customer. True there is a dongle option, but
>>>>>>> even they can have their fair share of problems. Now for the
>>>>>>> technical,
>>>>>>> I do find the free one to be actually more stable and even works with
>>>>>>> more applications than JAWS. You may find this shocking but this is
>>>>>>> true
>>>>>>> according to my personal experience.
>>>>>>> Sorry for the rant but you did suggest I state publicly my reasons. So
>>>>>>> there you go.
>>>>>>> Take care.
>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Chris Hallsworth
>>>>>>> You can contact me at the following channels:
>>>>>>> E-mail and Facebook: challsworth2@xxxxxxx
>>>>>>> MSN: ch9675@xxxxxxxxxxx
>>>>>>> Skype: chrishallsworth7266
>>>>>>> Twitter: http://twitter.com/christopherh40
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