Hi Gerald, Thanks for responding with such a generous explanation. I'm well aware of the problems of CAPTCHA blockades for the several years since they were introduced. And I've also encountered an increasing number of streaming audio alternative CAPTCHA setups, intended to help the screen reader user or just the low vision person. Sometimes an audio CAPTCHA works well enough for me, but not only is the sound sometimes so masked by white noise and so distorted that I have to play the audio a number of times to make a reasonable guess at the characters, but lately I've encountered a lot of them where the audio link simply doesn't work, yielding a variety of Windows error sounds when clicked on and sometimes also an error message from the site, usually advising me to make sure I have a sound card and speakers. Like, how do they imagine I can "read" such advice if I don't have a sound card and speakers? I have yet to figure out or hear from anyone what is behind these dysfunctional audio events, and I can't even guess. Because when it all works well, clicking on the link launches my Real Player or Windows Media player, and if I play the sound file a few times and am quick enough to silence Jaws echoing my keystrokes and the Jaws report of the player's launch fast enough so that I can hear the first few characters, it works out. But other times, I'm not only told that I need a sound card and speakers (they forget to add that I should make sure my computer's plugged in, too) but even the explanation that I need to have Real Player, etc. on my system. But alas, I'm a WindowsXP user. So I find other ways to get around the problem with help from sighted friends or from the site's tech support. It's not a big enough problem in my life that I think I want to change my browser from IE 7, though. Again, Gerald, thanks for explaining. iginal Message ----- From: "Gerald Levy" <bwaylimited@xxxxxxxxxxx> To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Friday, October 17, 2008 5:14 AM Subject: Re: What's Webvisim? (was Re: Participating in forums) Webvisam is an add-on for the Mozilla Firefox 3 web browser that is particularly appealing to blind users. It has the ability to deal with the image captia problem which often confounds many blind users on registration web pages. Captia is the string of characters that are displayed on a web page that a sighted user is supposed to type into an edit field to complete the registration process. By pressing Alt-Control-6,Webvisam automatically inserts this character string into the clipboard so that it can be easily pasted into the appropriate edit field. Many blind users have found this to be such a boon that they have switched from IE to Firefox. Unfortunately, Firefox is still not completely JAWS-friendly, so its probably best to use IE as the primary browser most of the time, and Firefox when you need Webvisam's image captia capabilities. Webvisam does not currently work with IE. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Yardbird" <yardbird@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Friday, October 17, 2008 4:53 AM Subject: What's Webvisim? (was Re: Participating in forums) >I Googled it but got only three hits, all of them messages from the PC >Audio > list, none of which explain what it is. A program, I assume. 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