Re: Vista!
- From: James Homuth <james@xxxxxxxxxxx>
- To: jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
- Date: Wed, 31 Jan 2007 12:35:56 -0500
Trust me Bruce, at the moment, Vista is fairly bugged. And, the 3d
effects may be what the sighted community wants, but I still don't
see a need to upgrade right away, more so if you can't see said
visual effects. All it is is basicly XP service pack 3 made pretty.
If you don't need to upgrade, then it's not practical to do so. And
judging by what I've read, programs that are designed to work with
Vista will still work with XP, so you're not losing much. The only
significant changes are really being made behind the scenes, and your
average computer user won't really care about them anyway.
James,
List Admin
At 11:49 AM 1/31/2007, you wrote:
Do you know that it's full of bugs? Do you know that the security
changes in Vista aren't what the public ahs been demanding? Do you know
that the visual changes being made aren't what your average computer
user wants? Sounds to me like you're making an awful lot of groundless
assumptions, unless you're in the loop more than the rest of us, in
which case I'd like to hear more.
On Wed, 31 Jan 2007 09:48:10 -0600, "Shawn Keen" <dkeen@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
said:
>
> Ya, same feeling here. Why do they have to go and mess up a good thing!
> xpsp2 has to be the most stable! Now they go and release something full
> of
> bugs to fix with a few large service packs. I guess it's money witch
> isn't
> a bad thing. oh well. I'll stick to xp as long as possible.
>
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Blake Sinnett" <frequency660@xxxxxxxxxxx>
> To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Sent: Wednesday, January 31, 2007 8:20 AM
> Subject: Re: Vista!
>
>
> > Yes, I'm probably going to wait until the first service pack
comes out to
> > even think about switching to vista. As of right now, I think Vista is
> > just a pricy service pack to xp. There just isn't too many
things new with
> > it that could justify me upgrading. Perhaps when Vista sp1
comes out, I'll
> > reevaluate things.
> >
> >
> > From: James Homuth <james@xxxxxxxxxxx>
> > Reply-To: jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > To: jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > Subject: Re: Vista!
> > Date: Wed, 31 Jan 2007 01:31:43 -0500
> >
> > That's alright, Microsoft dropped the ball when it comes to
Vista anyway.
> > Personally, anyone who wants to go out and buy it on the day
it's released
> > should wait 6 months anyway. At least until the first service pack comes
> > out. Of course, the only reason I say that now is because I end up
> > receiving most of the tech support calls for Vista. At least
where Dell's
> > concerned.
> >
> > James,
> > List Admin
> > At 04:45 PM 1/30/2007, you wrote:
> >>Yep, Rick, what I think Eric meant was that you'd have Vista
support, but
> >>only when they get around to it. I guess they figure that most people
> >>won't be running Vista on the day it's released, and in some
cases they're
> >>right. But what about those who choose to get really brave and install
> >>Vista on their machines? You'd better have a copy of one of the other
> >>screenreaders at your dissposal or you're kinda S,O, L.
> >>I think JAWS is a great screenreader, but I'm just disappointed that FS
> >>wasn't ready. they dropped the ball.
> >>
> >>
> >>At 03:30 PM 1/30/2007, you wrote:
> >>>Chris, Rick and list,
> >>>If someone is brave enough, then that person can buy a version of Vista
> >>>(hopefully Ultimate) and see if JAWS 7.0 and above are supported (or if
> >>>8.0 does work with AERO interface).
> >>>Cheers,
> >>>Joseph
> >>>
> >>>>----- Original Message -----
> >>>>From: "Rick Harmon"
> >>><rharmon@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> >>>>To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> >>>>Date sent: Tue, 30 Jan 2007 16:26:20 -0500
> >>>>Subject: Re: Vista!
> >>>
> >>>>Hi Chris,
> >>>
> >>>>I thought Eric Dammery promised Vista support
> >>>on launch day when 8.0 was
> >>>>released? Did I misunderstand FS here.
> >>>Looked out on the website and
> >>>>didn't find any mention at all. I guess that
> >>>is why FS refused to go on ACB
> >>>>radio main menu tonight with Jeff bishop
> >>>because they have no product for
> >>>>vista. Congrats to the other readers that
> >>>got it right and support Vista
> >>>>today and not whenever they feel like it.
> >>>
> >>>>Rick
> >>>>..
> >>>
> >>>>Rick
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>>=======
> >>>
> >>>>Visit my webpage at www.blind-geek-zone.net
> >>>
> >>>>Here you will find Audio tutorials for
> >>>popular programs, blindness related
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> >>>
> >>>>----- Original Message -----
> >>>>From: "Chris Skarstad" <toonhead@xxxxxxxxxx
> >>>>To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> >>>>Sent: Tuesday, January 30, 2007 4:20 PM
> >>>>Subject: Re: Vista!
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>>As far as I know, JAWS is not officially
> >>>supported under Windows
> >>>>Vista. To my knowledge, the only
> >>>screenreaders that officially
> >>>>support Vista are Window-eyes, Hal, and I
> >>>dunno if you'd even count
> >>>>this as a an official screenreader, but
> >>>Freedom Box System Access is
> >>>>also supported under Vista. It's too bad
> >>>that FS appears to have
> >>>>dropped the ball on this one.
> >>>>If you're a JAWS user and you want Vista,
> >>>you're screwed.
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>>At 03:09 PM 1/30/2007, you wrote:
> >>>>>Good point yes.
> >>>
> >>>>>Peter
> >>>>>----- Original Message ----- From: "Robert S.
> >>>Batchelor"
> >>>>><leehigh73@xxxxxxxxxxx
> >>>>>To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> >>>>>Sent: Tuesday, January 30, 2007 1:11 PM
> >>>>>Subject: RE: Vista!
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>>>>NONE, until you check out in depth the
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> >>>
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Do you know that it's full of bugs? Do you know that the security changes in Vista aren't what the public ahs been demanding? Do you know that the visual changes being made aren't what your average computer user wants? Sounds to me like you're making an awful lot of groundless assumptions, unless you're in the loop more than the rest of us, in which case I'd like to hear more. On Wed, 31 Jan 2007 09:48:10 -0600, "Shawn Keen" <dkeen@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> said: > > Ya, same feeling here. Why do they have to go and mess up a good thing! > xpsp2 has to be the most stable! Now they go and release something full > of > bugs to fix with a few large service packs. I guess it's money witch > isn't > a bad thing. oh well. I'll stick to xp as long as possible. > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Blake Sinnett" <frequency660@xxxxxxxxxxx> > To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> > Sent: Wednesday, January 31, 2007 8:20 AM > Subject: Re: Vista! > >> > Yes, I'm probably going to wait until the first service pack comes out to
> > even think about switching to vista. As of right now, I think Vista is> > just a pricy service pack to xp. There just isn't too many things new with > > it that could justify me upgrading. Perhaps when Vista sp1 comes out, I'll
> > reevaluate things. > > > > > > From: James Homuth <james@xxxxxxxxxxx> > > Reply-To: jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > > To: jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > > Subject: Re: Vista! > > Date: Wed, 31 Jan 2007 01:31:43 -0500 > >> > That's alright, Microsoft dropped the ball when it comes to Vista anyway. > > Personally, anyone who wants to go out and buy it on the day it's released
> > should wait 6 months anyway. At least until the first service pack comes > > out. Of course, the only reason I say that now is because I end up> > receiving most of the tech support calls for Vista. At least where Dell's
> > concerned. > > > > James, > > List Admin > > At 04:45 PM 1/30/2007, you wrote:> >>Yep, Rick, what I think Eric meant was that you'd have Vista support, but
> >>only when they get around to it. I guess they figure that most people> >>won't be running Vista on the day it's released, and in some cases they're
> >>right. But what about those who choose to get really brave and install > >>Vista on their machines? You'd better have a copy of one of the other > >>screenreaders at your dissposal or you're kinda S,O, L. > >>I think JAWS is a great screenreader, but I'm just disappointed that FS > >>wasn't ready. they dropped the ball. > >> > >> > >>At 03:30 PM 1/30/2007, you wrote: > >>>Chris, Rick and list, > >>>If someone is brave enough, then that person can buy a version of Vista > >>>(hopefully Ultimate) and see if JAWS 7.0 and above are supported (or if > >>>8.0 does work with AERO interface). > >>>Cheers, > >>>Joseph > >>> > >>>>----- Original Message ----- > >>>>From: "Rick Harmon" > >>><rharmon@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx > >>>>To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > >>>>Date sent: Tue, 30 Jan 2007 16:26:20 -0500 > >>>>Subject: Re: Vista! > >>> > >>>>Hi Chris, > >>> > >>>>I thought Eric Dammery promised Vista support > >>>on launch day when 8.0 was > >>>>released? Did I misunderstand FS here. > >>>Looked out on the website and > >>>>didn't find any mention at all. I guess that > >>>is why FS refused to go on ACB > >>>>radio main menu tonight with Jeff bishop > >>>because they have no product for > >>>>vista. Congrats to the other readers that > >>>got it right and support Vista > >>>>today and not whenever they feel like it. > >>> > >>>>Rick > >>>>.. > >>> > >>>>Rick > >>> > >>> > >>>>======= > >>> > >>>>Visit my webpage at www.blind-geek-zone.net > >>> > >>>>Here you will find Audio tutorials for > >>>popular programs, blindness related > >>>>web links, blind mailing list links and > >>>documents for various things. > >>> > >>>>----- Original Message ----- > >>>>From: "Chris Skarstad" <toonhead@xxxxxxxxxx > >>>>To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > >>>>Sent: Tuesday, January 30, 2007 4:20 PM > >>>>Subject: Re: Vista! > >>> > >>> > >>>>As far as I know, JAWS is not officially > >>>supported under Windows > >>>>Vista. To my knowledge, the only > >>>screenreaders that officially > >>>>support Vista are Window-eyes, Hal, and I > >>>dunno if you'd even count > >>>>this as a an official screenreader, but > >>>Freedom Box System Access is > >>>>also supported under Vista. It's too bad > >>>that FS appears to have > >>>>dropped the ball on this one. > >>>>If you're a JAWS user and you want Vista, > >>>you're screwed. > >>> > >>> > >>>>At 03:09 PM 1/30/2007, you wrote: > >>>>>Good point yes. > >>> > >>>>>Peter > >>>>>----- Original Message ----- From: "Robert S. > >>>Batchelor" > >>>>><leehigh73@xxxxxxxxxxx > >>>>>To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > >>>>>Sent: Tuesday, January 30, 2007 1:11 PM > >>>>>Subject: RE: Vista! > >>> > >>> > >>>>>>NONE, until you check out in depth the > >>>hardware requirements for VISTA... > >>>>>>you might need to update some of your > >>>hardware > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>>>>>--------------------------------------------- > >>>------------------------ > >>>>>>Eliminate annoying spam! > >>> > >>>>>>My mailbox is protected by iHateSpam, the > >>>#1-rated spam buster. > >>>>>>http://www.ihatespam.net > >>> > >>> > >>>>>>-----Original Message----- > >>>>>>From: jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > >>>[mailto:jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf > >>>>>>Of thomas williams > >>>>>>Sent: Tuesday, January 30, 2007 5:06 AM > >>>>>>To: Jfw@Freelists. 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