Re: Tip of the Day: Manually Starting JAWS As a Service

Thanks Chris, but one more question please. How can one unlock their
computer after pressing windows+l and what happens with someone luck their
computer. What benefits are their in doing this? Thanks.
Phone: 1-868-636-3519
Fax: 1-868-679-1001
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e-mail: steve.boodram@xxxxxxxxx
----- Original Message -----
From: "Christopher Hallsworth" <chrishallsworth@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Saturday, June 30, 2007 4:24 AM
Subject: Re: Tip of the Day: Manually Starting JAWS As a Service


> OK. When JAWS runs as an application, it will not speak at the log on
> prompts, nor will it speak in any other Windows-based password
> dialogues, such as when you unlock your computer. JAWS will also quit
> before Windows shuts down, making you have no speech during the shut
> down process. However, if JAWS runs as a service then it will speak
> those, plus it will speak until your computer's shut down. Hope this
> helps.
> On Sat, 30 Jun 2007 00:39:28 -0400, "Steve Boodram"
> <steve.boodram@xxxxxxxxx> said:
> > Hello Chris, I did it. I thought the spaces were not part of the syntax
> > line. Now, hope you're not getting impatient with me, but what benefits
> > will
> > I see as oppose to running JAWS as an application rather than a service.
> > Again, please let me apologize to all for probably asking a question
that
> > was already asked and answered, but i missed it because I was having
> > server
> > problems and had to wipe everything from my gmail inbox and lost the
> > post.
> > Thanks again.
> > Phone: 1-868-636-3519
> > Fax: 1-868-679-1001
> > Mobile: 1-868-730-8377
> > e-mail: steve.boodram@xxxxxxxxx
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Christopher Hallsworth" <chrishallsworth@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> > To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> > Sent: Thursday, June 28, 2007 9:49 PM
> > Subject: Re: Tip of the Day: Manually Starting JAWS As a Service
> >
> >
> > > Steve, are you sure you typed:
> > >
> > > net start jfwservice
> > >
> > > and nothing else? The above line must be typed exactly as shown
> > > otherwise you will get that message.
> > > On Thu, 28 Jun 2007 19:50:31 -0400, "Steve Boodram"
> > > <steve.boodram@xxxxxxxxx> said:
> > > > Hi Chris, I tried that and it didn't work. I am getting a message
called
> > > > invalid pathname or something like that. Am I doing something wrong?
I
> > > > typed
> > > > in the correct path, but still no luck.
> > > > Phone: 1-868-636-3519
> > > > Fax: 1-868-679-1001
> > > > Mobile: 1-868-730-8377
> > > > e-mail: steve.boodram@xxxxxxxxx
> > > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > > From: "Christopher Hallsworth" <chrishallsworth@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> > > > To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> > > > Sent: Thursday, June 28, 2007 6:02 PM
> > > > Subject: Re: Tip of the Day: Manually Starting JAWS As a Service
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > > Open the JAWS shortcut properties and in the target field type net
> > start
> > > > > jfwservice and hit enter.
> > > > > On Thu, 28 Jun 2007 17:11:09 -0400, "Steve Boodram"
> > > > > <steve.boodram@xxxxxxxxx> said:
> > > > > > Hi, I was having server problems with gmail and had to delete
the
> > > > > > contents of my inbox. I lost the message that gave the steps for
> > > > starting
> > > > > > JAWS as a service. Could someone please repost? Thanks.
> > > > > > Phone: 1-868-636-3519
> > > > > > Fax: 1-868-679-1001
> > > > > > Mobile: 1-868-730-8377
> > > > > > e-mail: steve.boodram@xxxxxxxxx
> > > > > >   ----- Original Message -----
> > > > > >   From: Don Moore
> > > > > >   To: jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > > > > >   Sent: Thursday, June 28, 2007 10:27 AM
> > > > > >   Subject: Re: Tip of the Day: Manually Starting JAWS As a
Service
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >   Hi,
> > > > > >
> > > > > >       I have been following this thread with great interest and
it
> > seems
> > > > > >       that the advantage of starting JAWS as a service instead
of an
> > > > > >       application is that JAWS loads sooner and, therefore, you
get
> > more
> > > > > >       information while booting up your computer and you also
get
> > more
> > > > > >       information reported by JAWS when shutting down your
computer.
> > > > > >       Please correct me if I am wrong.
> > > > > >
> > > > > >       Furthermore, is it correct that starting JAWS
automatically
> > > > > >       accomplishes the same thing as replacing the path in the
> > Desktop
> > > > > >       shortcut for JAWS and, if so, does JAWS have to be running
> > from
> > > > the
> > > > > >       System Tray as well to accomplish this?
> > > > > >
> > > > > >       Thanks in advance for enlightening me,
> > > > > >
> > > > > >       Don
> > > > > >     ----- Original Message -----
> > > > > >     From: Moti Azrad
> > > > > >     To: jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > > > > >     Sent: Thursday, June 28, 2007 11:06 AM
> > > > > >     Subject: Re: Tip of the Day: Manually Starting JAWS As a
Service
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >     Hi all,
> > > > > >
> > > > > >     I didn't read this thread from the beginning but wish to
know:
> > > > > >     What is the plus to use Jaws as a service and not as an
> > application?
> > > > > >
> > > > > >     Thanks
> > > > > >
> > > > > >     Moti
> > > > > >
> > > > > >     Moti Azrad
> > > > > >     Musician & Piano-Tuner
> > > > > >     motia@xxxxxxx
> > > > > >     azrad_moty@xxxxxxxxxxx
> > > > > >     motiaz@xxxxxxxxx
> > > > > >     Israel
> > > > > >       ----- Original Message -----
> > > > > >       From: Christopher Bartlett
> > > > > >       To: jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > > > > >       Sent: Wednesday, June 27, 2007 7:20 PM
> > > > > >       Subject: Re: Tip of the Day: Manually Starting JAWS As a
> > Service
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >       Is there a way to have JFW come up as a service initially?
> > > > > >
> > > > > >                Christopher Bartlett
> > > > > >
> > > > > >       At 03:50 AM 6/27/2007, you wrote:
> > > > > >       >What I was thinking is this. Say JAWS has crashed, or,
like
> > you
> > > > said,
> > > > > >       >someone wanted to use the computer with JAWS turned off.
> > Well, if
> > > > you
> > > > > >       >restart JAWS in the normal way (i.e. from the original
> > shortcut
> > > > or
> > > > > >       >hotkey that the shortcut's assigned to), JAWS will load
as an
> > > > > >       >application rather than a service. Now, if JAWS runs as
an
> > > > application,
> > > > > >       >it will unload during the shutdown service, meaning it
won't
> > > > speak
> > > > > >       >through the shutdown process. JAWS will also not speak
when
> > > > you're asked
> > > > > >       >for a password to log back into Windows or any other
> > > > Windows-based log
> > > > > >       >on screen, such as the one that displays when you turn
your
> > > > computer
> > > > > >       >back on after a standby or hybernation procedure. If JAWS
> > runs as
> > > > a
> > > > > >       >service, however, JAWS will speak, even at the log in
prompts
> > and
> > > > shut
> > > > > >       >down screen. So this is why I thought this tip would be
very
> > > > useful, so
> > > > > >       >that you can restart JAWS manually, and it will still
speak
> > the
> > > > above.
> > > > > >       >Hope this clears any confusions you had.
> > > > > >       >On Tue, 26 Jun 2007 12:12:08 -0700, "Yardbird"
> > > > <yardbird@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> > > > > >       >said:
> > > > > >       > > hello.
> > > > > >       > >
> > > > > >       > > I'm not quite clear how this works. For one thing, I
> > already
> > > > have Jaws
> > > > > >       > > set
> > > > > >       > > to load on startup (isn't that as a "service?"). So,
the
> > only
> > > > time I use
> > > > > >       > > my
> > > > > >       > > shortcut (actually, I tend more often to use control
alt j
> > and
> > > > not the
> > > > > >       > > icon,
> > > > > >       > > because I don't need Jaws running to find it!). But I
> > don't
> > > > understand
> > > > > >       > > the
> > > > > >       > > point of doing this. I'm missing something, maybe?
Again,
> > the
> > > > only time I
> > > > > >       > > start Jaws manually at all is when I've exited it for
some
> > > > reason, like
> > > > > >       > > that
> > > > > >       > > a sighted friend's been using the computer and
preferred
> > it to
> > > > be
> > > > > >       > > actually
> > > > > >       > > off, not just have the volume turned down. So they
could
> > use
> > > > the Web
> > > > > >       > > properly, for instance, without the interference of
the
> > > > virtual buffer
> > > > > >       > > screen. Normal enough. But then, if they don't
remember to
> > > > restart jaws
> > > > > >       > > (there's a toilet seat joke in there somewhere, with
> > screen
> > > > reader users
> > > > > >       > > being the female and sighted computer user friends
being
> > the
> > > > males), then
> > > > > >       > > I
> > > > > >       > > just hit my shortcut key combo and it launches. And,
if I
> > shut
> > > > down, next
> > > > > >       > > time I boot up, it loads as a service, as usual.
Unless
> > this
> > > > isn't what
> > > > > >       > > "service" means?
> > > > > >       > >
> > > > > >       > > Okay, that's one question. The other is, if my Jaws is
> > already
> > > > loading on
> > > > > >       > > startup, then how come it doesn't already keep
speaking
> > all
> > > > the way
> > > > > >       > > through
> > > > > >       > > the Windows shutdown sequence, until the screen goes
dark?
> > > > > >       > >
> > > > > >       > > Maybe you can see the source of my confusion in my
> > questions.
> > > > I hope.
> > > > > >       > > Educated  me, please.
> > > > > >       > >
> > > > > >       > > Thanks.
> > > > > >       > > cirtual  enitrely,from the desktop or but that isn't
my
> > > > pointcla
> > > > > >       > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > > > >       > > From: "Christopher Hallsworth"
> > > > <chrishallsworth@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> > > > > >       > > To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>; "JAWS-Users"
> > > > <jaws-users-list@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> > > > > >       > > Sent: Tuesday, June 26, 2007 11:41 AM
> > > > > >       > > Subject: Tip of the Day: Manually Starting JAWS As a
> > Service
> > > > > >       > >
> > > > > >       > >
> > > > > >       > > Hi all,
> > > > > >       > > I've recently discovered that there is a way to
manually
> > start
> > > > JAWS as a
> > > > > >       > > service using the JAWS shortcut placed on the desktop
once
> > > > JAWS is
> > > > > >       > > installed. Here's how to do it:
> > > > > >       > > 1. Go to the desktop with Windows M
> > > > > >       > > 2. Press j until JAWS <version> (where <version> is
the
> > > > version(s) of
> > > > > >       > > JAWS you've installed, such as JAWS 8.0).
> > > > > >       > > 3. Press alt enter to open the JAWS properties. The
JAWS
> > > > properties
> > > > > >       > > dialogue box appears, with the target edit field in
focus.
> > > > > >       > > 4. Delete what's in the target field and type the
> > following,
> > > > exactly as
> > > > > >       > > shown:
> > > > > >       > > net start jfwservice
> > > > > >       > > 5. Press enter.
> > > > > >       > > 6. Press F5 to refresh your desktop.
> > > > > >       > > To test this:
> > > > > >       > > 1. Unload JAWS with insert F4 and enter.
> > > > > >       > > 2. Go to the desktop and press enter on the JAWS icon
> > whose
> > > > properties
> > > > > >       > > you have modified.
> > > > > >       > > 3. Although JAWS will load as expected, you'll notice
that
> > > > unlike the
> > > > > >       > > regular shortcut that's placed after you've installed
> > JAWS,
> > > > JAWS will
> > > > > >       > > speak even after you've logged off windows!
> > > > > >       > > Hope this tip is of some use! David, you may want to
put
> > this
> > > > up on your
> > > > > >       > > site for those who are interested. Enjoy!
> > > > > >       > > Christopher Hallsworth
> > > > > >       > > E-mail: chrishallsworth@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > > > > >       > > Skype name chrishallsworth7266
> > > > > >       > > MSN: ch9675@xxxxxxxxxxx
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