RE: Thoughts on NEw JAWS
- From: "jim grimsby" <jimgrims@xxxxxxxxxxx>
- To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Sun, 22 Aug 2004 21:34:43 -0700
How offten do you use a physical mouse? What is the point? Jaws has a
perfectly good keyboard bassed mouse. It might be nice to have the
physical mouse speak as it is moved and if you are holding down a key a
tone to sound showing you witch direction the mouse is being move yes
this might be a nice feature that people could turn on or off I
personaly would leave it off for I have no interest in being told about
every I inavertenly hit the mouse but some might like it. How ever I
hardly think that this is a major consern at this time. Remoat access
is a major consern. Getting sun to allow jaws to distribute the java
access bridge and install it with the setup program is another major
thing that should happen. A video intercept maniger that can detect that
windows update just updated the video drivers and install intercept
before the system is rebooted a sound if that fells letting you know
that jaws installed the video intercept and your system needs to be
rebooted to use jaws. How about access to more programs. I have a
dream a real dream that one day I can by what ever program I want to use
as long as it is not a video game and install it and my screen reader
will read it. That is the most emportant thing to me is being able to
do what I need to do easyly quicly and intuatively.
-----Original Message-----
From: jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On
Behalf Of Sun Sparkle
Sent: Sunday, August 22, 2004 9:15 PM
To: jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: Re: Thoughts on NEw JAWS
well one thing is that jaws cant use the mouse like another screen
reader i know of! I saw that feature in use here a while ago and i will
just say hands down well jaws is a great screen reader but there are
just somethings jaws can't do at this time.
----- Original Message -----
From: "jim grimsby" <jimgrims@xxxxxxxxxxx>
To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Sunday, August 22, 2004 11:03 PM
Subject: RE: Thoughts on NEw JAWS
> Hi, I use the scripting langwige all the time and you and all other
> jaws user binafit from this langwige wether or not you code in it or
> not. Every time you run winamp every time you use word every time you
read a
> msn message use are making use of a script. Every time you get on
the
> net you are making use of a script. The power of the program allows
> you to have access to all of these programs. The power of the
> scripting langwige allows you to use all of these programs with more
> access then any other screen reader. Now I am not trying to beet the
> jaws drum but facts are facts. The fact is jaws gives better access
> to more things more of the time. If you are running a stable system
> jaws tends to run fine. Are there stability issues yes you bet your
> pants there are. Is that the most emportant thing no. Giving access
> to the most programs in a way that the new user can use and understand
> is the most emprotant thing. If stability was the most emprotant
> thing none of us would have ever left dos and are dos screen readers.
> The fact is that we need access we need it now and the bugs can be
> worked out as we go. Now the office issues were solved first because
> that is what most people are using in there jobs. Office xp is the
> most widly used program in most jobs held by most blind people from
> what I understand the version most widely used is office xp so office
> xp was the focus. Now my beef is this I need the remoat desktop
> access I needed it six months ago and I still do not have it in jaws
> but window eyes users have it. So lets complain about access we do not
> have. Also fs is very picky on how scripts should look. As long as
> they get the job done fs should start posting every script out there
> with a disclaimer that they did not write them as gw micro does. We
> need more and more access not a bunch of users complaining that they
> might have to reboot there systems once and a while my god winamp
> makes me do that all the time and it is one of the most popular
> programs on the net.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On
> Behalf Of Troy Burnham
> Sent: Saturday, August 21, 2004 12:45 PM
> To: jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Subject: Re: Thoughts on NEw JAWS
>
>
> I have to agree with Steve here. I don't know what percentage of Jaws
> users are power users as they call them but I certainly am not and I
> personally don't know anybody who is. Smile. Troy
>
>
>
> On Saturday 8/21/2004 01:51 PM, Steve said:
> >Yes, Jim, the scripting language is nice... But, it is only used by
> >probably 5% of JFW users; it is more difficult to write scripts.
> >
> >I have a game that Window Eyes recognizes fine, but I can't get JFW
> >to tell me the card suits. I am not a scripter, other than making
> >simple mods to existing scripts. But, the writing of set files in WE
> >is simpler,
> though far
> >less flexible than JFW's scripting language.
> >
> >But, I think most users would rather have something stable and then
> >have something with a lot of power or bells and whistles.
> >
> >Admittedly, both have stability issues. But, it appears there are
> >far more with JFW than with Window Eyes.
> >
> >Steve
> >
> >
> >
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