RE: Thoughts on NEw JAWS

Ok using this argument I agree but this is not the case with the minor
jaws problems.  Infact could some one tell me what problems you are all
raving about.  My system using jaws 5.0 works grate with no problems
that I can lay at jaws door step. 

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From: jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On
Behalf Of Bruce Toews
Sent: Saturday, August 21, 2004 1:29 PM
To: jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: Re: Thoughts on NEw JAWS


I think what it comes down to is that jusb because I may not use a
certain 
feature, that doesn't mean it shouldn't be there. Because I don't use 
soundschemes, or because I don't use placemarkers, doesn't mean that
sound 
schemes or place markers are a bad thing. But if the choice is between 
five features that work as advertised and ten that sort of kind of do on

the second Tuesday of the month provided there was a full moon the 
previous Wednesday, I'll take the five features that work reliably.

Bruce

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On Sat, 21 Aug 2004, Kerri wrote:

> Hello. I use place markers on a web page on which the link I want 
> isn't clearly marked and I have to enter on every link until I find 
> the one I want. this is so time consuming and I visit this page 
> frequently so those are great. Kerri.
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Matthew Horspool" <drjaws@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Sent: Saturday, August 21, 2004 12:33 AM
> Subject: RE: Thoughts on NEw JAWS
>
>
> I wouldn't mind the extra charge if JAWS was just about $300 cheaper!
>
> About the speech and sounds manager:
> I use it all the time, it's really speedy!
>
> Place Markers:
> They are useful on Google, I have to admit, but I can't think I've 
> really used them anywhere else, but I do have the occasional time when

> I think "Thank goodness place markers are there".
>
> Web Settings:
> Useful if you use Eloquence all the time and absolutely HATE the 
> British voice!
>
> But all that said, I can fully understand the other perspective.
>
> The only way I see of getting things like good stability back into 
> JAWS is to either bombard the Freedom Scientific guys with it or give 
> them no customers and make them wonder why they've been left out!
>
> Matthew
> -----Original Message-----
> From: jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On 
> Behalf Of Chris Skarstad
> Sent: 21 August 2004 07:01
> To: jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Subject: Re: Thoughts on NEw JAWS
>
>
> Speaking of remote access, I heard in an interview Eric Damery did 
> that FS is thinking about charging extra for remote desktop and citrix

> support, I
> believe the figure he gave was somewhere in the area of $200.
> Personally, I
> think this is pure d wrong.  Window-eyes has access to Citrix and
remote
>
> desktop in the current version and it's absolutely free. Why on earth 
> should we pay $200 for something that's available for free elsewhere? 
> FS needs to get back on target with the user base, realize that we're 
> not interested in all these bells and whistles, and fix the 
> outstanding issues
> like the focus problems like others have said.  But the question is
how
> this can be accomplished.  There does appear to be a lot of bug fixes
in
>
> the 5.1 release so that's all good and  well and I'm quite sure people

> who use MS word will benefit from these.  But I don't know a single 
> person who
> tells me that they've used place markers, the personalized web
settings
> or
> the speech and sounds manager.  To be quite blunt and forward, I think
> the
> programmers are just showing off and saying, look what we can do!
> Ifthey
> could get back to basics I think it would go a long way to regaining
> people's trust.
>
>
>
>  At 12:22 AM 8/21/2004, you wrote:
>> Bruce,
>>
>> Right on, I am not personally excited at all about the Speech 
>> Manager; I rarely save specific website settings, so those features 
>> don't mean much to me.
>>
>> I'm still waiting for resolutions to the focus issues and other bugs,

>> as well as support for other things such as remote access.
>>
>> Steve
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "Bruce Toews" <coke_drinker@xxxxxxxx>
>> To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>> Sent: Friday, August 20, 2004 9:19 PM
>> Subject: Thoughts on NEw JAWS
>>
>>
>> First of all, it seems FS is still desperate for us to be excited 
>> about
>
>> the sound schemes feature that 5.0 introduced. I'm not seeing this 
>> excitement in the real world. Maybe it's there and I'm missing it.
>>
>> I see nothing about the menus-reading issues and the other 
>> long-standing issues that are repeatedly addressed here and 
>> elsewhere. Are they increasingly out of touch with their users? I'm 
>> afraid so. At the risk of getting too far off-topic and raising 
>> James's frustrations,
>
>> I'll stop here.
>>
>> Bruce
>>
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