RE: The old Jaws hotkey issue, again

From: "Mullins, Chris" <Chris.Mullins@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Date: Fri, 7 Dec 2007 09:40:04 -0000
I did a bit more testing and am now inclined to agree with Rich.  The
start menu does seem to take precedence.  I also tested it the other way
round, setting a key combination on a start menu shortcut and the same
on an unrelated desktop icon.  The desktop icon took the key combination
but when invoked the start menu program was launched.   


As for the SendTo  details, if the start menu shortcut is sent to the
dessktop then the key combination changed, will the original key
combination still work?  

Cheers
Chris
-----Original Message-----
From: jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On
Behalf Of Richard sherman
Sent: 07 December 2007 00:12
To: jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: Re: The old Jaws hotkey issue, again 

Hi,

I did a quick test here to hopefully answer the question of which has
precedence, the desktop or start menu:.

1. I took a desktop icon and put in the short cut key of the number 1.

2. Then I found a totally unrelated program in my start up menu and also
put in the same short cut key.

3. I then tried the short cut key. The program in the start menu
activated, even with focus on the desktop item with no window active.

Therefore, I conclude that the items in the start menu have precedence
over desktop icons.

One last note. If you use the send to function on something that is in
the start up menu, and you send it to the desktop, it will duplicate all
of it's properties. Including the short cut key field.

HTH

Rich
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From: Yardbird
Sent: Thursday, December 06, 2007 3:02 PM


Richard,

thanks for the explicit instructions about how to find the launch item
for
each version on the Start menu, and how to open its properties, but I'm
familiar with that sort of thing, so it wasn't a hassle at all. But I'll
ask
you what I just asked Chris Mullins in another reply a moment ago: I'm
surprised, although not at all displeased,to see Rick confirming what I
just
suspected for the first time as I fixed up my hotkeys a few minutes ago.
Which is that if you just set this stuff on the Start menu, that's all
you
need to do. I mean, you can still bring up the properties dialogue for
the
icon of the same application, and it will still provide that very tab
with
its edit fields, but 1. that field will be blank although you've entered
something into it in the other properties tab on the Start menu, and 2.
I'm
starting to think it's a redundancy and in fact a needlessly confusing
one.
Leading you (or me, at least, until a few minutes ago) to infer that you
had
two properties tabs you had to deal with for each application
represented by
an icon, and that you had to input the same stuff in both locations.
Well, I
guess not.

Can you speak to this? I think I'm going to simply stop fooling around
with
icons altogether,I mean adjusting them in this way. When I install an
application and am asked if I want it on the start menu and want an icon
,
too, I'll continue to say yes to both, but if I want to assign a hotkey,
I
won't even bother touching the icon's properties. Do you know if the
start
menu launch item's properties take precedence in case of a conflict with
the
properties details of the icon?

Wow. This is definitely not "intuitive" stuff. Not that it's rocket
science
or brain surgery, as they say, but that isn't what I mean. It's just
confusing because of a system design that can be bewildering to an end
user.
Like me, is that I mean. :-) 

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RE: The old Jaws hotkey issue, again

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