Re: The Next Version Number?
- From: "Angel" <angel238@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Wed, 22 Jun 2005 11:15:25 -0400
I am sorry I contributed to this thread. Sometimes when a thread stirs my
passions I have trouble restraining myself. I formally apologize. Certain
language is an insult to the ears and is just as upsetting as is profanity.
In fact I believe English poorly written is profane. I would protest as
strongly if cursing were written on the list. I apologize again and will no
longer complain concerning what is written on the list or the way it is
written.
----- Original Message -----
From: "James" <james@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Tuesday, June 21, 2005 3:04 PM
Subject: RE: The Next Version Number?
> Take a look at the last 5-10 posts by yourself alone, and tell me if
*that*
> is JAWS related. I think not. That's why.
> At 03:00 PM 6/21/2005, you wrote:
> >Hi, understood will not post fother on this subject.
> >May I respectfully ask the moderator how ever why he is putting a cap on
> >this subject. It is clearly jaws related in nature.
> >Thanks!
> >
> >
> >-----Original Message-----
> >From: jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On
> >Behalf Of James
> >Sent: Tuesday, June 21, 2005 11:36 AM
> >To: jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> >Subject: Re: The Next Version Number?
> >
> >
> >We can't carry i much farther... because it ends, here.
> >At 12:20 PM 6/21/2005, you wrote:
> > >Aaaah come on guys! How far can we carry this topic! Sheesh!
> > >
> > >
> > >----- Original Message -----
> > >From: "Jim Grimsby" <jimgrims@xxxxxxxxxxx>
> > >To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> > >Sent: Tuesday, June 21, 2005 12:13 PM
> > >Subject: RE: The Next Version Number?
> > >
> > >
> > > > Hi,
> > > > This is true. The point I was making is that from a programming
> > > > perspective an upgrade is always a change is the main version
> > > > number. And an update is a change in the version number after the
> > > > point. So even a change in build number is an update. Hth
> > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > From: jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On
> > > > Behalf Of Bruce Toews
> > > > Sent: Tuesday, June 21, 2005 8:39 AM
> > > > To: jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > > > Subject: Re: The Next Version Number?
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Something about this update/upgrade thing. It's a distinction that
> > > > GW Micro uses, but I have not seen FS make that distinction. To the
> > > > best of
> > > >
> > > > my understanding, FS tends to use upgrade to describe all version
> > > > changes, but they use the term major and minor upgrades. JFW 4, 4.5,
> >
> > > > 5, I think 5.1, and 6 were major uppgrades, i.e. required a SMA.
> > > > 4.01, 4.02, 4.51, and 6.1 (and 6.2 from what I understand) are minor
> >
> > > > upgrades. FS doesn't exactly follow a patern with version numbers.
> > > >
> > > > Bruce
> > > >
> > > > --
> > > > Bruce Toews
> > > > E-mail and MSN/Windows Messenger: water_drinker@xxxxxxxx Web Site
> > > > (including info on my weekly commentaries): http://www.ogts.net Info
> >
> > > > on the Best TV Show of All Time: http://www.cornergas.com
> > > >
> > > > On Tue, 21 Jun 2005, Dave Durber wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > Hello Jim:
> > > > >
> > > > > Swap the letter A as in "a upgrade" for the word an as in "an
> > > > > upgrade".
> > > > >
> > > > > The way that you are using the letter A in your messages, makes
> > > > > the upgrade sound as if an upgrade is an indefinite article, which
> >
> > > > > it is not.
> > > > >
> > > > > sincerely:
> > > > >
> > > > > Dave Durber
> > > > >
> > > > > On Mon, 20 Jun 2005 21:56:03 -0700, you wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > >> No this is not true
> > > > >> It is not always true that a update must be free. A update is
> > > > >> always
> > > >
> > > > >> a major version change from 6 to 7 an update it a change in the
> > > > >> point
> > > >
> > > > >> it has nothing to do with the cost of the program. Hth
> > > > >>
> > > > >>
> > > > >> -----Original Message-----
> > > > >> From: jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]
> > > > >> On Behalf Of Chipmunks
> > > > >> Sent: Monday, June 20, 2005 2:46 PM
> > > > >> To: jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > > > >> Subject: RE: The Next Version Number?
> > > > >>
> > > > >>
> > > > >> With previous versions of jaws, e.g. 3.5 to 3.7.x or 4.0.x to
> > > > >> 4.5.x, an upgrade was one where the number behind the period
> > > > >> changed. It was
> > > >
> > > > >> only with jaws 5.x and 6.x that an upgrade was a change from 5.x
> > > > >> to 6.x and now from 6.x to 7.x.
> > > > >>
> > > > >> I think it depends on the companies policcy and version
> > > > >> numbering. An
> > > >
> > > > >> upgrade counts against a sma, a minor update does not.
> > > > >>
> > > > >> Cheers,
> > > > >>
> > > > >> Doris
> > > > >>
> > > > >> At 10:00 AM 6/20/2005 -0700, you wrote:
> > > > >>> Hi,
> > > > >>> A upgraid in software terms is when the version number it self
> > > > >>> before the point changes so a upgrade is 6 to 7. A update on a
> > > > >>> program is anything that causes the version number after the
> > > > >>> point to change so a update is 6.0 6.1 and so on Hth
> > > > >>> -----Original
> > > > >>> Message-----
> > > > >>> From: jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]
> >On
> > > > >>> Behalf Of Yardbird
> > > > >>> Sent: Monday, June 20, 2005 7:45 AM
> > > > >>> To: jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > > > >>> Subject: Re: The Next Version Number?
> > > > >>>
> > > > >>>
> > > > >>> Hi Margaret,
> > > > >>>
> > > > >>> Just read Eric's own message here, giving the details of changes
> >
> > > > >>> in the
> > > > >>
> > > > >>> update. Why is everyone discussing this in the first place?
> > > > >>> Weeks ago,
> > > > >>>
> > > > >>> someone mentioned that an update would soon be coming out, and
> > > > >>> that Eric had announced it at a convention. This was very
> > > > >>> clearly the announcement of an interim update, which is a
> > > > >>> regular sort of thing.
> > > >
> > > > >>> I believed it and didn't
> > > > >>> give it another thought until the list became alive with rumors
> > > > >>> and questions, back and forth. This could have been due to only
> >
> > > > >>> two
> > > > >> things.
> > > > >>>
> > > > >>> One, maybe people aren't reading their list messages. Two,
> > > > >>> maybe some people don't know the difference between the terms
> > > > >>> "update" and
> > > >
> > > > >>> "upgrade."
> > > > >>>
> > > > >>> They are not synonyms. They don't mean the same thing. An
> > > > >>> update is a
> > > > >>
> > > > >>> free modification to the current version of the program. An
> > > > >>> upgrade
> > > >
> > > > >>> is
> > > > >>
> > > > >>> a new
> > > > >>>
> > > > >>> version or new release, whichever term you prefer.
> > > > >>>
> > > > >>> Hope this helps.
> > > > >>> ----- Original Message -----
> > > > >>> From: "Margaret Thomas" <iluvtoread@xxxxxxx>
> > > > >>> To: "jfw" <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> > > > >>> Sent: Monday, June 20, 2005 4:09 AM
> > > > >>> Subject: Fw: The Next Version Number?
> > > > >>>
> > > > >>>
> > > > >>> Here is a post from Eric at FS clarifying the confusion about
> > > > >>> the next release of JAWS. Margaret
> > > > >>>
> > > > >>>
> > > > >>> ----- Original Message -----
> > > > >>> From: "Eric Damery" <EricD@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> > > > >>> To: <Jawslite@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> > > > >>> Sent: Monday, June 20, 2005 6:56 AM
> > > > >>> Subject: RE: The Next Version Number?
> > > > >>>
> > > > >>>
> > > > >>> During the next two weeks, we will post another Free Update for
> > > > >>> JAWS
> > > >
> > > > >>> 6.x users. This will be version 6.2 and in addition to many
> > > > >>> requested fixes, it will offer the ability to let a PAC Mate
> > > > >>> user control their PC and Desktop JAWS. This will include
> > > > >>> Keyboard in put, synthesizer, and Braille output all from the
> > > > >>> PAC Mate BX or QX models. There will be
> > > > >>
> > > > >>> more details on this shortly.
> > > > >>>
> > > > >>> Following that, will be an SMA release in September. This will
> > > > >>> be the version 7.0. Regards, Eric
> > > > >>>
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