RE: The Next Version Number?

  • From: "Wil James" <wil@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Tue, 21 Jun 2005 15:22:29 -0400

jawslite@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx may be a better choice.  There's not as much
bitching and complaining there as it is here.

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-----Original Message-----
From: jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf
Of Dave Durber
Sent: Tuesday, June 21, 2005 2:59 PM
To: jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: Re: The Next Version Number?

My comment was not intended as a put-down.  I made the comment as a
constructive comment.  There was no insult intended.

Whether or not an e-mail message is written in conversational language, a
well constructed written message that uses good grammar, is always going to
be better received and better understood, that a message that is poorly
constructed and uses bad grammar.

Whether we like it or not, society makes judgements about us as people based
upon the way a person speaks, the way a person writes, the way a person
dresses and the way a person behaves.

Unfortunately, there are too many people today who do not care how they
speak, how they write, how they dress and how they behave.

I joined this list to pick up hints, tricks an solutions to problems that we
all have with our computers, Windows and JAWS.  I am beginning to reconsider
whether I should remain a member of the list.

Sincerely:

Dave Durber

On Tue, 21 Jun 2005 09:32:06 -0700, you wrote:

>Jim,
>I don't know anyone at all, not a single person, who does that.  Let's 
>just drop it.  I haven't heard that since eighth grade or so.  Please 
>don't mistake ordinary correct English for "fancy" English.  How did 
>you learn to read and write?  With print or with Braille or with audio?
>
>
>----- Original Message -----
>From: "Jim Grimsby" <jimgrims@xxxxxxxxxxx>
>To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>Sent: Tuesday, June 21, 2005 9:18 AM
>Subject: RE: The Next Version Number?
>
>
>Thank you duly noted.  I suspect  that the rest of the list did not 
>feel in need of a grammar lesson but I am always welcoming new information.
>By the way how many people do you know that say an while they are 
>talking?  A email usually is written in conversational English.
>And with abbreviated langwige as below.
>Hth
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On 
>Behalf Of Dave Durber
>Sent: Tuesday, June 21, 2005 6:39 AM
>To: jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>Subject: Re: The Next Version Number?
>
>
>Hello Jim:
>
>Swap the letter A as in "a upgrade" for the word an as in "an upgrade".
>
>The way that you are using the letter A in your messages, makes the 
>upgrade sound as if an upgrade is an indefinite article, which it is 
>not.
>
>sincerely:
>
>Dave Durber
>
>On Mon, 20 Jun 2005 21:56:03 -0700, you wrote:
>
>>No this is not true
>>It is not always true that a update must be free.  A update is always 
>>a major version change from 6 to 7 an update it a change in the point 
>>it has nothing to do with the cost of the program.
>>Hth
>>
>>
>>-----Original Message-----
>>From: jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On 
>>Behalf Of Chipmunks
>>Sent: Monday, June 20, 2005 2:46 PM
>>To: jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>Subject: RE: The Next Version Number?
>>
>>
>>With previous versions of jaws, e.g. 3.5 to 3.7.x or 4.0.x to 4.5.x, 
>>an upgrade was one where the number behind the period changed. It was 
>>only
>
>>with jaws 5.x and 6.x that an upgrade was a change from 5.x to 6.x and 
>>now from 6.x to 7.x.
>>
>>I think it depends on the companies policcy and version numbering. An 
>>upgrade counts against a sma, a minor update does not.
>>
>>Cheers,
>>
>>Doris
>>
>>At 10:00 AM 6/20/2005 -0700, you wrote:
>>>Hi,
>>>A upgraid in software terms is when the version number it self before 
>>>the point changes so a upgrade is 6 to 7. A update on a program is 
>>>anything that causes the version number after the point to change so 
>>>a
>
>>>update is 6.0 6.1 and so on Hth
>>>-----Original Message-----
>>>From: jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On 
>>>Behalf Of Yardbird
>>>Sent: Monday, June 20, 2005 7:45 AM
>>>To: jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>>Subject: Re: The Next Version Number?
>>>
>>>
>>>Hi Margaret,
>>>
>>>Just read Eric's own message here, giving the details of changes in 
>>>the
>>
>>>update.  Why is everyone discussing this in the first place?  Weeks 
>>>ago,
>>>
>>>someone mentioned that an update would soon be coming out, and that 
>>>Eric had announced it at a convention.  This was very clearly the 
>>>announcement of an interim update, which is a regular sort of thing.  
>>>I believed it and didn't give it another thought until the list 
>>>became alive with rumors and questions, back and forth.  This could 
>>>have been due to only two
>>things.
>>>
>>>One, maybe people aren't reading their list messages.  Two, maybe 
>>>some people don't know the difference between the terms "update" and 
>>>"upgrade."
>>>
>>>They are not synonyms.  They don't mean the same thing.  An update is 
>>>a
>>
>>>free modification to the current version of the program.  An upgrade 
>>>is
>>
>>>a new
>>>
>>>version or new release, whichever term you prefer.
>>>
>>>Hope this helps.
>>>----- Original Message -----
>>>From: "Margaret Thomas" <iluvtoread@xxxxxxx>
>>>To: "jfw" <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>>Sent: Monday, June 20, 2005 4:09 AM
>>>Subject: Fw: The Next Version Number?
>>>
>>>
>>>Here is a post from Eric at FS clarifying the confusion about the 
>>>next release of JAWS. Margaret
>>>
>>>
>>>----- Original Message -----
>>>From: "Eric Damery" <EricD@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>>To: <Jawslite@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>>Sent: Monday, June 20, 2005 6:56 AM
>>>Subject: RE: The Next Version Number?
>>>
>>>
>>>During the next two weeks, we will post another Free Update for JAWS 
>>>6.x users. This will be version 6.2 and in addition to many requested 
>>>fixes, it will offer the ability to let a PAC Mate user control their 
>>>PC and Desktop JAWS. This will include Keyboard in put, synthesizer, 
>>>and Braille output all from the PAC Mate BX or QX models. There will
>be
>>
>>>more details on this shortly.
>>>
>>>Following that, will be an SMA release in September. This will be the 
>>>version 7.0. Regards, Eric
>>>
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