Re: System Tray Icons

I must agree with rick on this one. I believe that the list would benefit from what other people know, that someone else doesn't.



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From: "Rick Harmon" <rickharmon@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Reply-To: jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: Re: System Tray Icons
Date: Thu, 2 Feb 2006 14:11:45 -0500

Hi Jim,

You know something, you don't have to belittle people here. I am not stupid,
I have my system tray configured correctly.  Don't treat me like a little
kid that knows nothing.  I have read the JAWS tutorials already and that is
why I posted my question here.  I don't need your criticisms  you like to
give to   everyone here when you feel there questions are stupid.

Just because some of us may not be as experienced or as intellegent as you
may be is no reason to treat us all like children.

Thanks,

Rick



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My darkness has been filled with the light of intelligence, and behold, the
outer day-lit world was stumbling and groping in social blindness.
Author:
Helen Keller


----- Original Message ----- From: "Jim Grimsby" <jimgrims@xxxxxxxxxxx> To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Thursday, February 02, 2006 1:57 PM Subject: RE: System Tray Icons


This is not a fs problem. If you had your system tray configured properly you would have no problem. See my other message on this subject for direction on how to do this. Or even look at the jaws help file novel concept.

jim grimsby
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skype: jim.grimsby

-----Original Message-----
From: jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On
Behalf Of Rick Harmon
Sent: Thursday, February 02, 2006 10:53 AM
To: jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: Re: System Tray Icons


Hi Michael,

Ins-F11 works pretty well here 90+% of the time.  I prefer to use the
system
tray and yes its easily messed up if you press anything other than what
JAWS
expects.  I agree that FS needs to work on this.  Its annoying for
things to
not work as expected or to work part of the time but not all of the
time.

Rick



=====

My darkness has been filled with the light of intelligence, and behold,
the
outer day-lit world was stumbling and groping in social blindness.
Author:
Helen Keller


----- Original Message ----- From: "Michael G." <commodore128@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Thursday, February 02, 2006 1:44 PM Subject: Re: System Tray Icons


Hi,

I've had this problem though primarily with the Select A System Tray
dialog box.  Jaws has a difficult time correctly placing focus in this
window for some reason.  About 70% of the time I can reliably select the
firstor second option in this window.  Anything below that and Jaws
doesn't properly select the item that Jaws is reading.  The only way
I've been able to reliably access the System Tray is by accessing it on
the task bar and I do it this
way:

1. Open the Start Menu
2.  Hit escape.
3.  Tab over to the System Tray button.  Jaws will only say button here.
You'll know you've passed it if you hear Jaws say Desktop. 4.  Press
Spacebar. 5.  Now you can either arrow down to the item you want or
press the first letter of the desired item.  Then you can either hit
Enter on it to perform what is essentially a double-left mouse click or
you can press the context-menu button to perform a right-mouse click
function.

Note:  I know this sounds dumb, but you have to do this correct the
first time. If you Tab over to the system tray button, press the
spacebar and then accidently press the left or right arrow key, or even
if you tab again after having selected the button, it seems to mess
everything up.  To correct it, I'll Alt-Tab a couple of times, refresh
the screen,  then start the process all over again.  It's a hassle, I
know, and I really wish Freedom Scientific would address this problem
with the System Tray.  If Insert-F11 can't work reliably, then why even
have the feature?

Michael


----- Original Message ----- From: "Rick Harmon" <rickharmon@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Thursday, February 02, 2006 8:27 AM Subject: Re: System Tray Icons


> Hi, > > That didn't have any affect. I still can not always navigate through > the system tray. Now what? > > Rick > > > > ===== > > My darkness has been filled with the light of intelligence, and > behold, the outer day-lit world was stumbling and groping in social > blindness. > Author: > Helen Keller > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "curmudgeon" <one2three4five6@xxxxxxxxxxx> > To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> > Sent: Thursday, February 02, 2006 8:24 AM > Subject: Re: System Tray Icons > > > in the task bar and start menu > make sure, only the keep on top and the clock should be checked, if > they are the only ones checked unchecked one then checked it again > and then apply the changes and then ok > and see if that fixes the problem > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Job Hunter" <jobhunter@xxxxxxxxxx> > To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> > Sent: Wednesday, February 01, 2006 12:54 PM > Subject: System Tray Icons > > > Hi List: > > I have noticed that using JFW 6.2 with XP (both Pro and Home), I > cannot reliably navigate through the System Tray Icons. It doesn't > matter whether I tab to the System Tray and then use the arrow keys or

> use Jaws Key + F11.
> It will not announce all the icons or will announce the same icon
multiple
> times.  All of my display, task bar, etc settings are set according to
FS
> recommendations.
>
> Two observations:
> 1.  This is not an issue on Windows 2000.  It always works reliably.
> 2.  I just setup a new XP Pro PC.  It was reading the tray icons
> perfectly, until I attached the computer to the network and it
> downloaded all the MS update files.  Once all the updates were
> downloaded and the computer rebooted several times, the unreliable
> function of reading system tray icons
> began.  I hadn't made that observation on other XP machines, but this
is
> the
> first machine where I had done the majority of the setup prior to
> attaching
> it to the network and downloading MS updates.
>
> In any case, I'm interested if anyone else has this issue and what, if

> anything, you have been able to do to solve the problem. Thanks,
> John
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