RE: Smart Tags

Insert V savings in Microsoft applications have some settings in there
that will save until you change them again, for example smart tags,.
You will need to experiment to see which items will remain until you
change them and which ones are session changes.  I don't know them all.

.  


Rose Combs
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From: jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On
Behalf Of Yardbird
Sent: Saturday, March 05, 2005 9:44 PM
To: jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: Re: Smart Tags


I don't understand what you mean. I thought we were talking about Jaws,
not 
Microsoft applications.
thanks,
Daniel

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Rose Combs" <rosecombs@xxxxxxxxx>
To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Saturday, March 05, 2005 8:25 PM
Subject: RE: Smart Tags


In office products it seems to be a bit different, experiment and see
what you get.


Rose Combs
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From: jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On
Behalf Of Yardbird
Sent: Saturday, March 05, 2005 4:42 PM
To: jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: Re: Smart Tags


I understand.  It's just that my general understanding of that Insert V
menu, based both on experience, on Jaws instructions, and from mailing
list discussions, was that most or all of the settings available on that
menu

were temporary.  I'll try to be observant from now on and see which
actually are, and which are more permanent.

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Rose Combs" <rosecombs@xxxxxxxxx>
To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Saturday, March 05, 2005 12:10 PM
Subject: RE: Smart Tags


Experimenting!  I just know that some setting do not stick and some do,
I experiment and make changes as needed.


Rose Combs
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Sent: Saturday, March 05, 2005 12:15 PM
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Rose,
Where did you learn which of those settings holds for more than the
present session in an application, and which actually change something
as if you'd gone into the configuration manager menus? Daniel
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From: "Rose Combs" <rosecombs@xxxxxxxxx>
To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Saturday, March 05, 2005 10:18 AM
Subject: RE: Smart Tags


Some of the settings on the insert V menu are temporary, some are not,
the smart tags and a few others, I don't remember exactly which ones now
are permanent changes, in fact, I think most of them are except the
reading with capital letters announced and punctuation.


Rose Combs
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From: jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On
Behalf Of Yardbird
Sent: Friday, March 04, 2005 8:31 PM
To: jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: Re: Smart Tags


Interesting, Jack.  So far as I've learned about that on-the-by Insert V

menu, all the adjustments you make on its menu are meant only to hold
for as long as you're in that session with that application.
Interesting. I'll look through that Insert V menu for clues to other
such anomalies.  But the menu is generally meant to allow only temporary
adjustments.

Daniel
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From: "Jack Lowe" <akronjack1982@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Friday, March 04, 2005 7:21 PM
Subject: Re: Smart Tags


Hi Daniel,

Well, I went to my MS Word program and then hit insert V.
I arrowed down once to smart tags and turned them off with the space
bar. Tabbed once to close and hit enter.  Jaws then announced that it
saved my changes. Well, I wanted to test your theory that this was a
temporary fix.  So, I completely restarted the computer, and went back
into the MS Word program. The verbosity setting to turn smart tags off
was still turned off.  So, in short, This will shut off Jaws reading
smart tags in MS Word for good until you

turn
that feature back on.  It's not temporary.    Jack

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Yardbird" <yardbird@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Friday, March 04, 2005 8:37 PM
Subject: Re: Smart Tags


Jack,

I'd just like to remind you that this solution is only a temporary one
and that the solution Francis Daniels so painstakingly gave the steps
for is the way to stop smart tags from being created even though you
don't wish them to.  Personally, I'd go with that, unless I had reason
to believe that I might eventually study the uses of smart tags and
begin creating them purposefully.  But I don't personally think that's
going to happen for me, and so simply turning them off altogether seems
the best solution.

By the way, I'm not sure if there's a corresponding setting you can make
permanently in Jaws configuration manager to stop Jaws speaking smart
tags. This would allow Word to keep creating smart tags whether you
wanted them or not, but Jaws wouldn't speak them unless you turned the
smart tag speaking back on.

Butt, I don't know where that might be in the configuration menu.  And I
personally think Francis's solution is by far the one to be preferred,
for most users.
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Jack Lowe" <akronjack1982@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Friday, March 04, 2005 5:11 PM
Subject: Re: Smart Tags


Thank you!  This is what I wanted to do all along!  Jack
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Rose Combs" <rosecombs@xxxxxxxxx>
To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Friday, March 04, 2005 7:48 PM
Subject: RE: Smart Tags


Did you know that under the insert V in MS word you can tell Jaws to
stop reading smart tags, it is the first or second option, once you
change it and press enter the saving is maintained until you change it
again.


Rose Combs
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Sent: Thursday, March 03, 2005 6:08 AM
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Subject: Re: Smart Tags



You will need to go to the Format pull-down menu with Alt O.  Then go to
Auto format with the letter A.  Press tab to get to the Options button
and then press it with Enter or space bar.

Press Control Tab once to get to the Smart tags page.  The dialog box is
now labeled AutoCorrect, but it's where you need to be.  The first
option is called "Label text with smart tags.  It will be checked. Press
space bar to uncheck it.  Press tab to get to the next check box,
labeled "Show smart tag action buttons."  Make sure this check box is
not checked.  Press tab to get to the OK button, and press Enter.  Exit
the dialog box by tabbing to the Close button.

okay, I did this, and, I'm still hearing "Smart Tag", in some of my
documents. so, I took 1 more step.

1, open a Microsoft document, where your hearing "Smart Tag"
2, alt O, for the pull down menu,

3, A for auto format,
4, tab options, press enter,
5, ctrl tab to the smart tags page,
6, tab to, remove "Smart tags, press enter,
7, you will hear, "Microsoft Office Word
This will remove all smart tags, including smart tags labeled by
recognizers you may no longer have and smart tags recognized in a
document opened on someone else's computer. You cannot undo this action.
Do you want to continue? Yes No" 8, press enter. 9, press enter. 10, tab
and  enter on okay. your now placed back in your current document. now
alt f4, and say yes to changes. reopen the document, you will not hear,
"Smart Tags.
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Jack Lowe" <akronjack1982@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Wednesday, March 02, 2005 8:58 PM
Subject: Smart Tags


Hi All,

OK, I'm using Office Pro 2002, and I'm fighting with MS Word. In the
options/view tab, there is a place to check or uncheck the smart tags.
So, I unchecked it, and it still says smart tag.  So, what's the point
in being able to uncheck something if it won't go away?  Any ideas? Jack

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