Re: Section Sign

  • From: "Flor Lynch" <florlync@xxxxxx>
  • To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Mon, 4 Dec 2006 02:44:47 -0000

Please Note:  You will then need to make a JAWS Dictionary entry to speak the 
value of ANSI character 167, by replacing ANSI167 with the word 'section' 
without the quotes.  JAWS should then say section when it comes across the 
section sign.  If preferred, you can do this without going into the 
Configuration manager, etc., by highlighting the ANSI167 character (where you 
know the section sign is), and by adding it to your JAWS dictionary entries 
list.  (JAWS Dictionary Manager) Insert+d; Default Dictionary then 
ctrl+shift+d; ctrl+a for Add; then add in the ANSI167 or section sign.  then 
Tab to Replace and there type section.  ctrl+s to save your change, and exit.  

  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Flor Lynch 
  To: jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx 
  Sent: Monday, December 04, 2006 1:53 AM
  Subject: Re: Section Sign


  The JAWS Configuration Manager file (the .jcf file for any program opened) 
can be accessed by insert+6.  The default .jcf can then be reached by 
ctrl+shift+d, which is also a default JAWS keystroke in other JAWS utilities 
for other default files.  

    ----- Original Message ----- 
    From: Flor Lynch 
    To: jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx 
    Sent: Monday, December 04, 2006 1:30 AM
    Subject: Re: Section Sign


    Right:  Do not let the detail be a barrier.  

    1.  Go into your Configuration  manager, either application or default, 
whichever you would prefer.

    2.  Press Alt+s for Set Options.

    3.  Press the letter g to bring up the Graphics & Symbols dialogue.  

    4.  The first item there refers to ANSI Character Verbosity.  This is what 
you will change.  Arrow down from "None" to any of the other values.  Try the 
"Type Echo, Say Char Spell Word" option by arrowing to it.  

    5.  Having done these things, shift-tab twice to the ok button, and hit 
enter.

    6.  Now you can save your change with ctrl+s, or you can alt-F4 from the 
configuration manager and press y to save the change(s).  


      ----- Original Message ----- 
      From: John Ramsey 
      To: jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx 
      Sent: Monday, December 04, 2006 12:28 AM
      Subject: RE: Section Sign


      Hello,

      The section symbol is definitely what i want JFW to recognize and I was 
unable to find the graphics verbosity menu in the config manager. Can you walk 
me through this like I am reading a JFW for dummies book.

      Take care,

      John



      -----Original Message-----
      From: jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On 
Behalf Of Flor Lynch
      Sent: Sunday, December 03, 2006 6:44 PM
      To: jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
      Subject: Re: Section Sign



      Try the ANSI Character Verbosity switch in the Graphics & Symbols 
dialogue in the friendly config manager, Set Options, Graphics & Symbols.  By 
default, the verbosity is set to say no ANSI.  (ANSI being an extended 
character set that includes non-English alphabetical characters.)  the section 
sign is ANSI167 ANSI160  § sign.  (I may be a little out on that, but ANSI167 
is the main symbol, and then a press of spacebar seems to produce ANSI160.)  In 
the verbosity dialogue you might want to choose "Say char, spell word".  You 
can choose any of them except none.  HTH.



        ----- Original Message ----- 

        From: Adrian Spratt 

        To: jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx 

        Sent: Sunday, December 03, 2006 8:52 PM

        Subject: Re: Section Sign



        John,



        I just realized your question implies you're not finding this list, and 
I should have been clearer.  By "insert-4," I'm referring to the 4 on the 
number row above the letters on the keyboard.  I'm not referring to the numpad.



        As I said in the message I just sent, I find I can access this feature 
while within a variety of applications.

          ----- Original Message ----- 

          From: John Ramsey 

          To: jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx 

          Sent: Sunday, December 03, 2006 12:49 PM

          Subject: RE: Section Sign



          Hello Adrian,

          I have sent an email to FS and will let you know what they say. In 
the meantime, when you hit insert f4, are you in a word processing application, 
such as, WordPerfect or word?

          Take care,

          John



          -----Original Message-----
          From: jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On 
Behalf Of Adrian Spratt
          Sent: Sunday, December 03, 2006 12:34 PM
          To: jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
          Subject: Section Sign



          Hi, everyone.  I sent this message at about 6:30 last night, EST, but 
it hasn't turned up in the list, as a fellow lister confirmed.  I hope it's not 
a repeat for any of you.



          John,



          I remember I once tricked JAWS into saying the section sign. However, 
I've just been experimenting in the JAWS dictionary manager, only to find JAWS 
doesn't recognize that it's on a character. The JAWS graphics labeler doesn't 
recognize it as a graphic, at least in WordPerfect.



          Curiously, the section sign does appear in the symbols list you get 
by pressing insert-4. Open up that file and type an s, and you will be taken 
right to it.



          I've been testing this in both 6.2 and 8.



          Someone on the list may also have tricked JAWS into speaking the 
symbol and remembers how they did it. Otherwise, it would be worth an email to 
FS tech support.



          If you get an answer, please let us all know.



          Adrian
          ----- Original Message -----
          >From: John Ramsey



          Hello All,



          I have a different punctuation question. I do a lot of legal reading 
and there is an s like symbol for section and i was told that it was in an 
earlier version of JFW. I believe it was 7.0, but cannot say for sure. When JFW 
reads a code or statute section with this symbol, it reads over it as if the 
symbol was not there. Is there a way to either, one, find this symbol in the 
JFW menu choices, or two, select the symbol in a document and add it to the 
punctuation symbols?



          As always, I will greatly appreciate your help.



          Take care,



          John



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