Re: Section Sign

  • From: "Flor Lynch" <florlync@xxxxxx>
  • To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Mon, 4 Dec 2006 01:53:19 -0000

The JAWS Configuration Manager file (the .jcf file for any program opened) can 
be accessed by insert+6.  The default .jcf can then be reached by ctrl+shift+d, 
which is also a default JAWS keystroke in other JAWS utilities for other 
default files.  

  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Flor Lynch 
  To: jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx 
  Sent: Monday, December 04, 2006 1:30 AM
  Subject: Re: Section Sign


  Right:  Do not let the detail be a barrier.  

  1.  Go into your Configuration  manager, either application or default, 
whichever you would prefer.

  2.  Press Alt+s for Set Options.

  3.  Press the letter g to bring up the Graphics & Symbols dialogue.  

  4.  The first item there refers to ANSI Character Verbosity.  This is what 
you will change.  Arrow down from "None" to any of the other values.  Try the 
"Type Echo, Say Char Spell Word" option by arrowing to it.  

  5.  Having done these things, shift-tab twice to the ok button, and hit enter.

  6.  Now you can save your change with ctrl+s, or you can alt-F4 from the 
configuration manager and press y to save the change(s).  


    ----- Original Message ----- 
    From: John Ramsey 
    To: jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx 
    Sent: Monday, December 04, 2006 12:28 AM
    Subject: RE: Section Sign


    Hello,

    The section symbol is definitely what i want JFW to recognize and I was 
unable to find the graphics verbosity menu in the config manager. Can you walk 
me through this like I am reading a JFW for dummies book.

    Take care,

    John



    -----Original Message-----
    From: jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf 
Of Flor Lynch
    Sent: Sunday, December 03, 2006 6:44 PM
    To: jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
    Subject: Re: Section Sign



    Try the ANSI Character Verbosity switch in the Graphics & Symbols dialogue 
in the friendly config manager, Set Options, Graphics & Symbols.  By default, 
the verbosity is set to say no ANSI.  (ANSI being an extended character set 
that includes non-English alphabetical characters.)  the section sign is 
ANSI167 ANSI160  § sign.  (I may be a little out on that, but ANSI167 is the 
main symbol, and then a press of spacebar seems to produce ANSI160.)  In the 
verbosity dialogue you might want to choose "Say char, spell word".  You can 
choose any of them except none.  HTH.



      ----- Original Message ----- 

      From: Adrian Spratt 

      To: jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx 

      Sent: Sunday, December 03, 2006 8:52 PM

      Subject: Re: Section Sign



      John,



      I just realized your question implies you're not finding this list, and I 
should have been clearer.  By "insert-4," I'm referring to the 4 on the number 
row above the letters on the keyboard.  I'm not referring to the numpad.



      As I said in the message I just sent, I find I can access this feature 
while within a variety of applications.

        ----- Original Message ----- 

        From: John Ramsey 

        To: jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx 

        Sent: Sunday, December 03, 2006 12:49 PM

        Subject: RE: Section Sign



        Hello Adrian,

        I have sent an email to FS and will let you know what they say. In the 
meantime, when you hit insert f4, are you in a word processing application, 
such as, WordPerfect or word?

        Take care,

        John



        -----Original Message-----
        From: jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On 
Behalf Of Adrian Spratt
        Sent: Sunday, December 03, 2006 12:34 PM
        To: jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
        Subject: Section Sign



        Hi, everyone.  I sent this message at about 6:30 last night, EST, but 
it hasn't turned up in the list, as a fellow lister confirmed.  I hope it's not 
a repeat for any of you.



        John,



        I remember I once tricked JAWS into saying the section sign. However, 
I've just been experimenting in the JAWS dictionary manager, only to find JAWS 
doesn't recognize that it's on a character. The JAWS graphics labeler doesn't 
recognize it as a graphic, at least in WordPerfect.



        Curiously, the section sign does appear in the symbols list you get by 
pressing insert-4. Open up that file and type an s, and you will be taken right 
to it.



        I've been testing this in both 6.2 and 8.



        Someone on the list may also have tricked JAWS into speaking the symbol 
and remembers how they did it. Otherwise, it would be worth an email to FS tech 
support.



        If you get an answer, please let us all know.



        Adrian
        ----- Original Message -----
        >From: John Ramsey



        Hello All,



        I have a different punctuation question. I do a lot of legal reading 
and there is an s like symbol for section and i was told that it was in an 
earlier version of JFW. I believe it was 7.0, but cannot say for sure. When JFW 
reads a code or statute section with this symbol, it reads over it as if the 
symbol was not there. Is there a way to either, one, find this symbol in the 
JFW menu choices, or two, select the symbol in a document and add it to the 
punctuation symbols?



        As always, I will greatly appreciate your help.



        Take care,



        John



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