Re: Section Sign

  • From: "Flor Lynch" <florlync@xxxxxx>
  • To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Mon, 4 Dec 2006 01:30:18 -0000

Right:  Do not let the detail be a barrier.  

1.  Go into your Configuration  manager, either application or default, 
whichever you would prefer.

2.  Press Alt+s for Set Options.

3.  Press the letter g to bring up the Graphics & Symbols dialogue.  

4.  The first item there refers to ANSI Character Verbosity.  This is what you 
will change.  Arrow down from "None" to any of the other values.  Try the "Type 
Echo, Say Char Spell Word" option by arrowing to it.  

5.  Having done these things, shift-tab twice to the ok button, and hit enter.

6.  Now you can save your change with ctrl+s, or you can alt-F4 from the 
configuration manager and press y to save the change(s).  


  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: John Ramsey 
  To: jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx 
  Sent: Monday, December 04, 2006 12:28 AM
  Subject: RE: Section Sign


  Hello,

  The section symbol is definitely what i want JFW to recognize and I was 
unable to find the graphics verbosity menu in the config manager. Can you walk 
me through this like I am reading a JFW for dummies book.

  Take care,

  John



  -----Original Message-----
  From: jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of 
Flor Lynch
  Sent: Sunday, December 03, 2006 6:44 PM
  To: jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
  Subject: Re: Section Sign



  Try the ANSI Character Verbosity switch in the Graphics & Symbols dialogue in 
the friendly config manager, Set Options, Graphics & Symbols.  By default, the 
verbosity is set to say no ANSI.  (ANSI being an extended character set that 
includes non-English alphabetical characters.)  the section sign is ANSI167 
ANSI160  § sign.  (I may be a little out on that, but ANSI167 is the main 
symbol, and then a press of spacebar seems to produce ANSI160.)  In the 
verbosity dialogue you might want to choose "Say char, spell word".  You can 
choose any of them except none.  HTH.



    ----- Original Message ----- 

    From: Adrian Spratt 

    To: jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx 

    Sent: Sunday, December 03, 2006 8:52 PM

    Subject: Re: Section Sign



    John,



    I just realized your question implies you're not finding this list, and I 
should have been clearer.  By "insert-4," I'm referring to the 4 on the number 
row above the letters on the keyboard.  I'm not referring to the numpad.



    As I said in the message I just sent, I find I can access this feature 
while within a variety of applications.

      ----- Original Message ----- 

      From: John Ramsey 

      To: jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx 

      Sent: Sunday, December 03, 2006 12:49 PM

      Subject: RE: Section Sign



      Hello Adrian,

      I have sent an email to FS and will let you know what they say. In the 
meantime, when you hit insert f4, are you in a word processing application, 
such as, WordPerfect or word?

      Take care,

      John



      -----Original Message-----
      From: jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On 
Behalf Of Adrian Spratt
      Sent: Sunday, December 03, 2006 12:34 PM
      To: jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
      Subject: Section Sign



      Hi, everyone.  I sent this message at about 6:30 last night, EST, but it 
hasn't turned up in the list, as a fellow lister confirmed.  I hope it's not a 
repeat for any of you.



      John,



      I remember I once tricked JAWS into saying the section sign. However, 
I've just been experimenting in the JAWS dictionary manager, only to find JAWS 
doesn't recognize that it's on a character. The JAWS graphics labeler doesn't 
recognize it as a graphic, at least in WordPerfect.



      Curiously, the section sign does appear in the symbols list you get by 
pressing insert-4. Open up that file and type an s, and you will be taken right 
to it.



      I've been testing this in both 6.2 and 8.



      Someone on the list may also have tricked JAWS into speaking the symbol 
and remembers how they did it. Otherwise, it would be worth an email to FS tech 
support.



      If you get an answer, please let us all know.



      Adrian
      ----- Original Message -----
      >From: John Ramsey



      Hello All,



      I have a different punctuation question. I do a lot of legal reading and 
there is an s like symbol for section and i was told that it was in an earlier 
version of JFW. I believe it was 7.0, but cannot say for sure. When JFW reads a 
code or statute section with this symbol, it reads over it as if the symbol was 
not there. Is there a way to either, one, find this symbol in the JFW menu 
choices, or two, select the symbol in a document and add it to the punctuation 
symbols?



      As always, I will greatly appreciate your help.



      Take care,



      John



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