To right click on an empty space on the desktop, minimize all apps with Windows key+m. Ensure that no program is selected. By default JfW will say 'not selected' if nothing is. If something is selected, hit Ctrl+space to unselect all. Then hit the application key. To right click on an empty space on the task bar, my guess is that you are seeking start menu and task bar properties. To get there in xp and I believe earlier versions, hit the start menu key, then hit escape, leaving you at the start button, then hit alt+enter for properties. If that is not your intended destination, tell us what is and we can show you a good keyboard-friendly way to get there. Dean -- To post a message to the list, send it to jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx To unsubscribe from this mailing list, send a message to jfw-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with the word unsubscribe in the subject line. Archives located at: //www.freelists.org/archives/jfw If you have any concerns about the list, post received from the list, or the way the list is being run, do not post them to the list. Rather contact the list owner at jfw-admins@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx