Re: Reading differences between 4.51 and 5.0
- From: "Chandni" <chandni1@xxxxxxxxxxx>
- To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Sun, 2 May 2004 21:35:18 +0200
Chris, that's exactly what happened to me! Thanks so much for sharing. At
least I know it's a bug and not my own JAWS's problem.
Fran
----- Original Message -----
From: "Chris Chaffin" <chaffin@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Sunday, May 02, 2004 2:12 PM
Subject: Re: Reading differences between 4.51 and 5.0
> Hi,
> I have worked allot in the custom punctuation dialog of the configuration
> manager. I don't find that it totally works like it should! I made some
> changes in punctuation before and when it didn't work like I wanted it to,
I
> tried to use the reset to default button, and it did not work! The only
way
> I could reset it back to the way it was originally was to do a Jaws
repair.
> I realize this portion of the configuration manager is new with Jaws 5.0,
> and I figure there is just some bugs that have to be worked out.
> Chris Chaffin
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Chandni" <chandni1@xxxxxxxxxxx>
> To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Sent: Saturday, May 01, 2004 1:48 PM
> Subject: Re: Reading differences between 4.51 and 5.0
>
>
> > Chris,
> > that's a great idea I hadn't thought about! I was thinking there might
be
> a
> > way to tell JAWS not to read the apostrophe using the dictionary
manager.
> I
> > didn't mean word by word but that will surely work!
> >
> > In JAWS 5 it is possible to customize punctuation. I selected the
> > apostrophe, clicked on "edit description" and deleted the word
apostrophe.
> > As a result, strangely all punctuations were set to NONE and I had to
run
> a
> > repair to restore it to ALL!! What did I do wrong?!
> >
> > Thanks
> >
> > Fran
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Chris Chaffin" <chaffin@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> > To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> > Sent: Saturday, May 01, 2004 7:35 PM
> > Subject: Re: Reading differences between 4.51 and 5.0
> >
> >
> > > Hi there,
> > > I never thought of trying to manipulate the words with apostrophe with
> the
> > > Jaws dictionary. That was a good idea, and I did try some things that
> you
> > > can try to see if it also works on your system! I tried it with
> eloquence
> > > and with my deck talk express, and it works for both of them. Go to
the
> > > default dictionary manager so the changes you make will work in all
> > > programs.
> > > For each new entry just hit the add button, type in the original word,
> > then
> > > type in your change and hit okay. When you leave the dictionary
> manager,
> > it
> > > will ask you if you want to save the changes, and just say yes! Here
> are
> > > the changes I made:
> > > don't to doughnt
> > > hasn't to has unt
> > > haven't to have unt
> > > isn't to is unt
> > > It's to its
> > > I am sure there are more changes you can make, but this is all I did
so
> > far!
> > > Notice the spelling of the changed word.
> > > Hope this helps!
> > > Chris Chaffin
> > >
> > >
> > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > From: "Chandni" <chandni1@xxxxxxxxxxx>
> > > To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> > > Sent: Saturday, May 01, 2004 12:18 PM
> > > Subject: Re: Reading differences between 4.51 and 5.0
> > >
> > >
> > > > Thank you. Is there a way to correct the apostrophe problem still
> > keeping
> > > > punctuation to ALL? Can something be done using the dictionary
> manager,
> > > for
> > > > instance?
> > > >
> > > > Thanks so much
> > > >
> > > > Fran
> > > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > > From: "Chris Chaffin" <chaffin@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> > > > To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> > > > Sent: Saturday, May 01, 2004 5:53 PM
> > > > Subject: Re: Reading differences between 4.51 and 5.0
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > > Hi,
> > > > > The apostrophe problem is an eloquence problem, and FS does know
> about
> > > > this
> > > > > problem. I reported it to them back when Jaws 5.00844 was
> originally
> > > > > released. They personally contacted me, and let me know that the
> > > problem
> > > > > was turned over to their developers, and hopefully it would be
> > corrected
> > > > in
> > > > > a future release of Jaws.
> > > > > Chris Chaffin
> > > > >
> > > > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > > > From: "Chandni" <chandni1@xxxxxxxxxxx>
> > > > > To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> > > > > Sent: Saturday, May 01, 2004 11:16 AM
> > > > > Subject: Re: Reading differences between 4.51 and 5.0
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > > Hi guys,
> > > > > > I also found a diference in the way JFW 5 reads numbers. But my
> real
> > > > > problem
> > > > > > is the apostrophe. I like to keep punctuation set to ALL, and
this
> > way
> > > > > JAWS
> > > > > > 5 will always read the ' sign as "apostrophe", so that for
> instance,
> > > the
> > > > > > word it's is read "it apostrophe s, instead of "its"". Does it
> > happen
> > > to
> > > > > any
> > > > > > of you? Actually this also happens with 4.5, but it didn't
happen
> > with
> > > > > 4.2.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Fran
> > > > > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > > > > From: "curmudgeon les" <one2three4five6@xxxxxxxxxxx>
> > > > > > To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> > > > > > Sent: Saturday, May 01, 2004 3:43 PM
> > > > > > Subject: Re: Reading differences between 4.51 and 5.0
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > in text processing,
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > I check, speak dollar
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > in punctuation mode, controlled by jaws
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > in numeric date processing
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > I have it set, to some
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > In number processing, controlled by synthesizer,
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > in both 4.51 and 5.0
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > and they both read the same,
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > one thousand
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > and phone numbers read,
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > two hundred thirteen, four hundred six,forty four fifty five
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > if they do not read the same, and they are both set the same
> way,
> > in
> > > > > > > configuration manager,
> > > > > > > you might consider running repair on both, and see if they
read
> > the
> > > > same
> > > > > > > with default setting
> > > > > > > in a document, with numbers
> > > > > > > and change one setting at a time,
> > > > > > > in both versions,
> > > > > > > i know, it is a pain, to do it methodicly, but it might have
to
> be
> > > > done.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > > > > > From: "Chris Chaffin" <chaffin@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> > > > > > > To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> > > > > > > Sent: Saturday, May 01, 2004 5:35 AM
> > > > > > > Subject: Re: Reading differences between 4.51 and 5.0
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Hi all,
> > > > > > > I also found a difference in how Jaws reads numbers in 4.5x
> verses
> > > > 5.0.
> > > > > I
> > > > > > > currently have both 4.51 and 5.00844 on my system. In my text
> > > > settings
> > > > > > for
> > > > > > > number processing, I have it set to control by synthesizer for
> > both
> > > > > > > versions, which is the default setting. For example:
> > > > > > > In 4.51, the number one thousand reads correctly, One
thousand.
> > > > > > > In 5.0, it reads, one zero zero zero.
> > > > > > > Now in text processing, there is a setting for number
processing
> > to
> > > > read
> > > > > > > full numbers. This makes Jaws read numbers correctly except
> when
> > it
> > > > > comes
> > > > > > > to numbers like phone numbers and social security numbers.
> > > > > > > I did call FS and report this difference, but I am not sure
any
> > > > > correction
> > > > > > > will be made.
> > > > > > > Chris Chaffin
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > > > > > From: <ptusing@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> > > > > > > To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> > > > > > > Sent: Saturday, May 01, 2004 12:55 AM
> > > > > > > Subject: Reading differences between 4.51 and 5.0
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Hi,
> > > > > > > > In Word the numbers twelve and thirteen, for example, are
> read
> > > as
> > > > > > > > twelve and thirteen using JAWS 4.5119 but are read as
> > > > > > > > one two and one three using 45.0884.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Is there a way to get them read the same?
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Thanks and I submitted note to
> > > > > > > > support@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > > > > > > > about the JAWS halting of speech in Word X P.
> > > > > > > > Have a fine week end.
> > > > > > > >
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