Re: Reading differences between 4.51 and 5.0

  • From: "Chris Chaffin" <chaffin@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Sat, 1 May 2004 13:35:47 -0400

Hi there,
I never thought of trying to manipulate the words with apostrophe with the
Jaws dictionary.  That was a good idea, and I did try some things that you
can try to see if it also works on your system!  I tried it with eloquence
and with my deck talk express, and it works for both of them.  Go to the
default dictionary manager so the changes you make will work in all
programs.
For each new entry just hit the add button, type in the original word, then
type in your change and hit okay.  When you leave the dictionary manager, it
will ask you if you want to save the changes, and just say yes!  Here are
the changes I made:
don't to doughnt
hasn't to has unt
haven't to have unt
isn't to is unt
It's to its
I am sure there are more changes you can make, but this is all I did so far!
Notice the spelling of the changed word.
Hope this helps!
Chris Chaffin


----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Chandni" <chandni1@xxxxxxxxxxx>
To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Saturday, May 01, 2004 12:18 PM
Subject: Re: Reading differences between 4.51 and 5.0


> Thank you. Is there a way to correct the apostrophe problem still keeping
> punctuation to ALL? Can something be done using the dictionary manager,
for
> instance?
>
> Thanks so much
>
> Fran
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Chris Chaffin" <chaffin@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Sent: Saturday, May 01, 2004 5:53 PM
> Subject: Re: Reading differences between 4.51 and 5.0
>
>
> > Hi,
> > The apostrophe problem is an eloquence problem, and FS does know about
> this
> > problem.  I reported it to them back when Jaws 5.00844 was originally
> > released.  They personally contacted me, and let me know that the
problem
> > was turned over to their developers, and hopefully it would be corrected
> in
> > a future release of Jaws.
> > Chris Chaffin
> >
> > ----- Original Message ----- 
> > From: "Chandni" <chandni1@xxxxxxxxxxx>
> > To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> > Sent: Saturday, May 01, 2004 11:16 AM
> > Subject: Re: Reading differences between 4.51 and 5.0
> >
> >
> > > Hi guys,
> > > I also found a diference in the way JFW 5 reads numbers. But my real
> > problem
> > > is the apostrophe. I like to keep punctuation set to ALL, and this way
> > JAWS
> > > 5 will always read the ' sign as "apostrophe", so that for instance,
the
> > > word it's is read "it apostrophe s, instead of "its"". Does it happen
to
> > any
> > > of you? Actually this also happens with 4.5, but it didn't happen with
> > 4.2.
> > >
> > > Fran
> > > ----- Original Message ----- 
> > > From: "curmudgeon les" <one2three4five6@xxxxxxxxxxx>
> > > To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> > > Sent: Saturday, May 01, 2004 3:43 PM
> > > Subject: Re: Reading differences between 4.51 and 5.0
> > >
> > >
> > > > in text processing,
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > I check, speak dollar
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > in punctuation mode, controlled by jaws
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > in numeric date processing
> > > >
> > > > I have it set, to some
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > In number processing, controlled by synthesizer,
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > in both 4.51 and 5.0
> > > >
> > > > and they both read the same,
> > > >
> > > > one thousand
> > > >
> > > > and phone numbers read,
> > > >
> > > > two hundred thirteen, four hundred six,forty four fifty five
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > if they do not read the same, and they are both set the same way, in
> > > > configuration manager,
> > > > you might consider running repair on both, and see if they read the
> same
> > > > with default setting
> > > > in a document,  with numbers
> > > > and change one setting at a time,
> > > > in both versions,
> > > > i know, it is a pain, to do it methodicly, but it might have to be
> done.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > ----- Original Message ----- 
> > > > From: "Chris Chaffin" <chaffin@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> > > > To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> > > > Sent: Saturday, May 01, 2004 5:35 AM
> > > > Subject: Re: Reading differences between 4.51 and 5.0
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Hi all,
> > > > I also found a difference in how Jaws reads numbers in 4.5x verses
> 5.0.
> > I
> > > > currently have both 4.51 and 5.00844 on my system.  In my text
> settings
> > > for
> > > > number processing, I have it set to control by synthesizer for both
> > > > versions, which is the default setting.  For example:
> > > > In 4.51, the number one thousand reads correctly, One thousand.
> > > > In 5.0, it reads, one zero zero zero.
> > > > Now in text processing, there is a setting for number processing to
> read
> > > > full numbers.  This makes Jaws read numbers correctly except when it
> > comes
> > > > to numbers like phone numbers and social security numbers.
> > > > I did call FS and report this difference, but I am not sure any
> > correction
> > > > will be made.
> > > > Chris Chaffin
> > > >
> > > > ----- Original Message ----- 
> > > > From: <ptusing@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> > > > To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> > > > Sent: Saturday, May 01, 2004 12:55 AM
> > > > Subject: Reading differences between 4.51 and 5.0
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > > Hi,
> > > > > In  Word the  numbers twelve and thirteen, for example, are read
as
> > > > > twelve and thirteen using JAWS 4.5119  but are read as
> > > > > one two and one three using 45.0884.
> > > > >
> > > > > Is there a way to get them read the same?
> > > > >
> > > > > Thanks and I submitted note to
> > > > > support@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > > > > about the JAWS halting of speech in Word X P.
> > > > > Have a fine week end.
> > > > >
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