Re: Reading Ebooks with Adobe
- From: "Yardbird" <yardbird@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Wed, 4 Apr 2007 08:06:54 -0700
Nicol,
I understand now. I downloaded the program and thus was able to read Jamal's
very thorough documentation that explains it all. Thank you. As for your
computer or Jaws crashing simply because you try to open a .pdf file with
Adobe as is so widely done, that's a problem, not just an odd characteristic
of these programs. That's simply how it's done by most computer users. You
need someone to see why this happens to you. It isn't normal. I open .pdf
files with Adobe all the time, and of course am using Jaws, and when I click
on the filename, Adobe Reader opens the document, and Jaws reports for a
second or two that Adobe is preparing the document, and then Jaws is ready
to read it. That should be how it works, and is not unusual. You might do
well to get some technical assistance to see what's the matter.
Again, reading the documentation explained to me how you can set TexPal to
be the default application for .pdf files so that it, rather than Adobe
Reader or Acrobat, acts upon a .pdf file when you click on it. Okay. Glad it
works for you.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Nicol Oosthuizen" <NOosthuizen@xxxxxxxxxxx>
To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Wednesday, April 04, 2007 2:18 AM
Subject: RE: Reading Ebooks with Adobe
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yardbird, what I meant with text editors and .pdf files is this:
You can use text pal to open a .pdf file. When you launch text pal,
either through the start, programs menu or via the desktop icon. You
can press control+O in text pal, locate the folder where .pdf files are
stored, press enter on a. pdf file and you will hear jaws say:
converting to text. I have came across some .pdf documents which text
pal can't convert but it do convert most .pdf documents.
I hope the air is clear, so spread your wings china. Lol!
-----Original Message-----
From: jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On
Behalf Of Yardbird
Sent: 03 April 2007 06:48 PM
To: jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: Re: Reading Ebooks with Adobe
Okay, I understand. My head is spinning, but with amusement. Where does
the
expression "to speak under correction" come from? I mean, where's it
used? I
take it what's meant is something akin to "perhaps I'm wrong," or " if
someone knows better, please speak up." Yes? Is it generally British
English, or is it peculiar to South Africa? The locution it reminds me
of in
American English is one that's formal and not used much in ordinary
conversation, where you might qualify a statement by saying "I say this
under advisement," and such things, but they don't have the same
functional
meaning. They don't indicate unsureness, but rather the opposite. A
positive. "To say something under advisement is to say something you've
been
authoritatively instructed to say. For example. So I find this
refreshing
and novel, and a nice bit to learn of. Thanks.
I do wonder what you mean about having trouble opening .pdf files with
text
editors. That confused me to hear. The way I have it set up is, I think,
the
most usual: I have the program Adobe Reader, or Adobe Acrobat, not sure
which version it is I'm running, and that is what is almost universally
used
by most people to open a ..pdf file and read it. Of course, Adobe has
worked
with the Freedom Scientific people and designed its recent versions to
support Jaws, so that a Jaws user can do this just as a sighted person
can,
or at least nearly as well.
For those who are familiar with blind OCR applications like Open Book, I
know there's a way to use OB to import a .pdf file and use the Freedom
Printer ((that name makes me laugh every time I read it, because it
reminds
me of the Bush administration throwing a fit over French disagreement
over
its foreign policy and asking Americans to rename French fried potatoes
"freedom fries."
Anyway, when I click on a p.df file, Adobe launches and opens it, and
Jaws
reads the document. I don't understand what you mean by brining text
editors
into the conversation about that. Please explain.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Nicol Oosthuizen" <NOosthuizen@xxxxxxxxxxx>
To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Tuesday, April 03, 2007 12:58 AM
Subject: RE: Reading Ebooks with Adobe
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Oops, sorry, I meant text pal.
-----Original Message-----
From: jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On
Behalf Of Yardbird
Sent: 03 April 2007 09:14 AM
To: jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: Re: Reading Ebooks with Adobe
Nicole,
Hello. Look, I'm familiar with Pay Pal, and I'm signed up with Pay Pal.
I
have no idea what any of this was about. I simply asked someone what
that
text editor was, and he told me. But for some reason, someone's telling
me
to sign up with Pay Pal and buy something I haven't even researched,
yet? Am
I misunderstanding someone?
From: "Nicol Oosthuizen" <NOosthuizen@xxxxxxxxxxx>
To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Monday, April 02, 2007 11:36 PM
Subject: RE: Reading Ebooks with Adobe
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HI yardbird
I suggested pay pal. The link you clicked on will download pay pal.
Unlike other text editors, you can open pdf documents with pay pal. It
will convert the pdf file to text. Its very handy for me to use pay
pal as I can never open a pdf document with jaws. Each time I open a pdf
document, jaws freezes so much that I have to reboot.
If I understand the pay pal manual correctly, you can even write
programs in pay pal but I speak under correction.
-----Original Message-----
From: jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On
Behalf Of Yardbird
Sent: 02 April 2007 07:31 PM
To: jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: Re: Reading Ebooks with Adobe
jerry,
Curious to see what you were pointing me to, I clicked on the link you
provided below, only to be met by a Windows dialogue asking my
permission to
download something or other, even as I heard the status line giving a
play-by-play of a Web page loading. I was so surprised I just hit Escape
and
got out of there, which seemed to cancel whatever was going on, because
my
browser isn't even launched, now, though it seemed to begin launching
when I
clicked on the link.
Weird. Couldn't you just tell me in a few words what this text editor
stuff
is about? When you have a couple of minutes? If not, fine, but my
question
was conversational, not indication that I wanted to embark on research
of
some kind. Thanks.--
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