Hi Dave, just cureious when yu went back to the current version of V12, because of the thing you didn't like with excel, I was just wondering about something. When one does that do they have to lituarly uninstall there jaws version then update to the current version that is given through the automatic update feature or just do a check for updates to find it again. Also this is what I want to be careful with when you went back did you have to use one of your keys that you get with the product. In anycase I don't use excel and I have not moved from the current version I would rather wait until it becomes a release. Thanks Daniel