Well not every company is synthavoice. How ever with the amount of work going to have to go in to vista I can see the need for a new version update. Jim Grimsby JR. Msn: jim.grimsby@xxxxxxx e-mail: jimgrims@xxxxxxxxxxx Skype: jim.grimsby -----Original Message----- From: jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Cy Selfridge Sent: Thursday, June 22, 2006 8:39 PM To: jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: RE: Problems with JFW version 7 Hmm, Sure seems to me that it would be a much more palatable arrangement if FS would get the current release bug free before they come out with another "new" upgrade. 2 in 1 year? Come on folks, get real! Long about 7.9 would be a good time to think about 8.0. Cy, the Ancient Okie... -----Original Message----- From: jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Ricque Sent: Thursday, June 22, 2006 10:19 PM To: jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: Re: Problems with JFW version 7 Hi Bruce, Well, my stance is not meant to try and lower the price, but instead to not pay in advance for a product that hasn't been produced yet. The point here is that, when we purchase SMA's, then they already have our money, and must produce a new version, and it has been proven time after time, that these versions are hurried along to try and justify the money we have given them. How many stores do you give your money to, in the hopes that they will sell you something useful to you? Do you walk in the door and give them some money, and tell them to contact you when they have the product you want? I would certainly hope not, I absolutely do not. It is one thing to pay in advance for a product that exists, and you are simply waiting for it to be shipped, but to pay in advance for one which hasn't been produced yet, I don't think so. If the upgrades worked properly, then they would be worth $60 per, but since they don't then, the only savings is realized by the software developer. Remember, we are financing the development of the software way ahead of schedule, so they don't have to tie up their capital, cause they are operating off our money. Ricque ----- Original Message ----- From: "Bruce Toews" <DogRiver@xxxxxxxx> To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Thursday, June 22, 2006 3:47 PM Subject: Re: Problems with JFW version 7 This notion of boycotting never works, just the notion of boycotting gasoline to lower the price never works. And quite frankly, if I have to upgrade to Windows Vista at some point, I want to be ready for it and in the long run the cheapest way to update is to use the SMA method. I have little time for the boycotters, protest marchers and sign-wavers of this world because all these techniques tend to garner by way of results is a false sense of accomplishment. Bruce -- Yet to all who received him, to those who believed in his name, he gave the right to become children of God. John 1:12 NIV Bruce Toews E-mail and MSN/Windows Messenger: DogRiver@xxxxxxxx Radio Show and Podcast: http://www.totw.net Web Site (including info on my weekly commentaries): http://www.ogts.net Info on the Best TV Show of All Time: http://www.cornergas.com On Thu, 22 Jun 2006, Ricque wrote: > Hi Bruce, > Well, please feel free to expound on your comment! > I would be interested in hearing what you have to say, > and we can continue off-list if you would prefer. > Ricque > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Bruce Toews" <DogRiver@xxxxxxxx> > To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> > Sent: Thursday, June 22, 2006 1:01 PM > Subject: Re: Problems with JFW version 7 > > > I really hate that kind of attitude. > > Bruce > > -- JFW related links: JFW homepage: http://www.freedomscientific.com/ Scripting mailing list: http://lists.the-jdh.com/listinfo.cgi/scriptography-the-jdh.com JFW List instructions: To post a message to the list, send it to jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx To unsubscribe from this mailing list, send a message to jfw-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with the word unsubscribe in the subject line. 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