James, Could you possibly email me offlist and tell me where exactly to go for this other list you mentioned? I'm having difficulty in copy/pasting your email address (so I could email to you only) into the webmail browser I'm forced to use right now. Thanks. Loreal -- To post a message to the list, send it to jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx To unsubscribe from this mailing list, send a message to jfw-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with the word unsubscribe in the subject line. Archives located at: //www.freelists.org/archives/jfw If you have any concerns about the list, post received from the list, or the way the list is being run, do not post them to the list. Rather contact the list owner at jfw-admins@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx