Hi Dennis, Just out of curiosity, under what heading or link is the file you mentioned? I have checked all the links under the programs page to no avail. Thanks in advance. rich ----- Original Message ----- From: dennis Sent: Tuesday, October 16, 2007 9:35 AM this is going to sound crazy but go to the jfwlite home page and download the outlook express scripts for jaws 5-6. it has solved a bunch of issues i've been having with it. debbie was a god send and i sure do miss her.