Re: Open office

  • From: "Dave Carlson" <dgcarlson@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Mon, 4 Jan 2010 12:13:26 -0800

Eddie,

It's a bit tricky with JAWS in this dialog, but you need to go into the font 
dialog (use Ctrl+Shit+F) and then tab to the colors selection. Then you're 
in a matrix of color combinations for foreground and background colors, and 
frankly, I'm not sure at this point how to reliably select a color, and tab 
away to the OK button to make your choice stick. It's always been a 
hit-and-miss for me. Let me know if you come up with a cookbook solution to 
this, and you've earned a gumdrop from the MS-Ribbon-Machine.

Dave

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Ed Arnold" <crawlwalkrun@xxxxxxxxxx>
To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Monday, January 04, 2010 12:00
Subject: Re: Open office


Dave
I guess I wasn't too clear.  What I wanted is to change the color of the
highlight or the faunt
.
Thanks
Eddie

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Dave Carlson" <dgcarlson@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Monday, January 04, 2010 2:52 PM
Subject: Re: Open office


> Eddie,
>
> Hold down the shift key and use the right arrow key in the six-pack area
> to
> highlight one character at a time. Hold shift and control and press right
> arrow key once to highlight an entire word.
>
> These, and a lot of shortcuts are all available in the JAWS helps system,
> under keystrokes. A lot more of them than I care to enumerate in messages.
>
> Dave
>
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Ed Arnold" <crawlwalkrun@xxxxxxxxxx>
> To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Sent: Monday, January 04, 2010 11:43
> Subject: Re: Open office
>
>
> I'm new to the list.
>
> Cathyanne do you  know if there is a quick key stroke to highlight text?
> Thanks in advance
> Eddie
>
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "CathyAnne" <cathy@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Sent: Monday, January 04, 2010 12:05 PM
> Subject: RE: Open office
>
>
>> There are two Word commands that will help you.
>> CTRL-SHIFT-PERIOD and CTRL-SHIFT-COMMA increase and decrease the font
>> size
>> by two points.
>>
>> CTRL-SHIFT-RIGHT BRACKET and CTRL-SHIFT-LEFT BRACKET increase and
>> decrease
>> the font by one point.
>>
>> CathyAnne
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: William L. Houts <cadexi@xxxxx>
>> Sent: Monday, January 04, 2010 9:34 AM
>> To: jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>> Subject: Re: Open office
>>
>>
>>
>> What's annoying me right now --and this might be because I don't know a
>> better way to do it-- but I want to make the fonts in some text larger by
>> three or four sizes, and intstead of just arrowing down to, say, 14
>> point,
>> I
>> have to hit Alt, then arrow to the Home tab, then hit return and tab to
>> Grow
>> Font, then repeat the process a few times.  Is there a faster way to
>> increase the size of a font?
>>
>>
>>
>> --Bill
>>
>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>> From: "Dave Carlson" <dgcarlson@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>> To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>> Sent: Monday, January 04, 2010 6:53 AM
>> Subject: Re: Open office
>>
>>
>>> Bill,
>>>
>>> I like your approach, and am sure you'll "get it" sooner than you think.
>>> A
>>> lot of what I found was just remembering "where the widget went that I
>>> need
>>> to click on" to do what I want. Almost like MS just arbitrarily
>>> scrambled
>>> the menus around a bit, to mess with our minds.
>>>
>>> Rather than that Teddy Bear, give yourself a gumdrop every time you
>>> successfully locate the dialog you need on the ribbon. When you've
>>> gained
>>> an
>>> extra 10 pounds, you'll be a ribbon expert in a new pants size.
>>>
>>> And we can both sit in awe of Cy, the Anasazi, our aged seer --  oh
>>> great
>>> one!
>>>
>>> Dave
>>>
>>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>>> From: "William L. Houts" <cadexi@xxxxx>
>>> To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>> Sent: Monday, January 04, 2010 06:30
>>> Subject: Re: Open office
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> The add on menues are a little wonky and take some getting used to for
>>> sure.
>>> It seems I may be able to put off making the transition for a little
>>> while
>>> yet.  I'm getting a new Dell tower and it's coming loaded with Worx Plus
>>> 2008, which supposedly has a version of Word with the comfy cozy menues.
>>> But that's just what they told me over the phone, and the rest of the
>>> order
>>> has involved an extensive tour of Dell's Indian customer service, half
>>> of
>>> whom doesn't know what the other half has told you.  So who knows what's
>>> true at this point, LOL?
>>>
>>> In the meantime, I've downloaded the Office 2007 training module from FS
>>> and
>>> am trying to imagine a world without menues.  Can someone give me a
>>> teddy
>>> bear?
>>>
>>>
>>> --Bill
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>>> From: "Dave Carlson" <dgcarlson@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>> To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>> Sent: Monday, January 04, 2010 6:04 AM
>>> Subject: Re: Open office
>>>
>>>
>>>> Bill,
>>>>
>>>> I know your pain -- I've been using MS-Word even longer than that, so
>>>> the
>>>> crossover was initially painful. And you're just a bit older than my
>>>> son,
>>>> so
>>>> talk about being set in my ways...
>>>>
>>>> I also considered the add-on menu tool for a while, but heard (did not
>>>> experience) that they are not easy to use, like real menus. Perhaps
>>>> someone
>>>> on this list can chime in.
>>>>
>>>> Dave]
>>>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>>>> From: "William L. Houts" <cadexi@xxxxx>
>>>> To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>>> Sent: Monday, January 04, 2010 01:57
>>>> Subject: Re: Open office
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> "Don't spend a lot of time complaining about things that aren't going
>>>> to
>>>> change anyway" is obviously a wise bit of advice.  But throw me a bone
>>>> here,
>>>> people.  A guy gets to kvetch just a little bit before giving in,
>>>> doesnt
>>>> he?
>>>>
>>>> I'll definitely look up the FS training module you mention:  thanks.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> --Bill
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> --
>>>>
>>>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>>>> From: "Dave Carlson" <dgcarlson@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>>> To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>>> Sent: Sunday, January 03, 2010 5:00 PM
>>>> Subject: Re: Open office
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> Long ago on this very list, I was complaining about FS changing the
>>>>> options
>>>>> dialog and the order of items. A subscriber to this list (who I
>>>>> haven't
>>>>> heard from in a long time) told me to "stop whining and just deal with
>>>>> it".
>>>>>
>>>>> I applied the same philosophy to the Ribbon, and have learned to use
>>>>> it
>>>>> quite well. If you have to learn something to do your job, you
>>>>> generally
>>>>> do.
>>>>> It's amazing how well we humans can adapt when we just put our minds
>>>>> to
>>>>> it.
>>>>> Complaining doesn't help in the learning process, from what I've
>>>>> experienced.
>>>>>
>>>>> And I believe that there is a training module on the FS web site on
>>>>> the
>>>>> MS
>>>>> ribbon and how to use it.
>>>>>
>>>>> Dave
>>>>>
>>>>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>>>>> From: "William L. Houts" <cadexi@xxxxx>
>>>>> To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>>>> Sent: Sunday, January 03, 2010 10:10
>>>>> Subject: Re: Open office
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Well, I had heard that MS was going to use both in future versions,
>>>>> but
>>>>> according to Mr. Halsworth I'm mistaken.  Until something is actually
>>>>> released, I don't know what to believe.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> --Bill
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>>>>> From: "Daniel McGee" <mc-g@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>>>> To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>>>> Sent: Sunday, January 03, 2010 8:55 AM
>>>>> Subject: Re: Open office
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>> Hi Bill, and others! That sounds great does anyone know how you would
>>>>>> change it back the normal way instead of using the damn ribbons?
>>>>>> Another
>>>>>> thing I might add is that I went blind when I was 16 and now I am 20
>>>>>> so
>>>>>> before office 2007 came out I had a visural idea of whow the normal
>>>>>> way
>>>>>> of
>>>>>> office looked like and when I lost my sight and was tought to learn
>>>>>> with
>>>>>> Jaws. Now I just get compuse. Just out of cureiousoty if someone on
>>>>>> this
>>>>>> list had sight could they explain visualy what the ribbons look like?
>>>>>> It
>>>>>> might help me.
>>>>>> Many Thanks
>>>>>> P..s I had an idea maybe if fs could do a kind of webpage in the help
>>>>>> topics of Jaws with microsoft office apps kind of like what's changed
>>>>>> and
>>>>>> what verious things are in catorgies For example if I remember right
>>>>>> before 2007 to change the file size you would go to the format option
>>>>>> go
>>>>>> down arrow once find font hit enter on that tab twice and then you
>>>>>> find
>>>>>> the file size then change it to whatever you want and then hit enter.
>>>>>> Oh
>>>>>> not forgetting you have to highlight what you want 1st. And another
>>>>>> example is thing wear you find out how many pages you are on your
>>>>>> document
>>>>>> how many words etc it wa some wear in tools I think again in 2003.
>>>>>> But
>>>>>> in
>>>>>> office 2007 I haven't got a clue!
>>>>>> --------------------------------------------------
>>>>>> From: "Chris Smart" <chris_s@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>>>>> Sent: Sunday, January 03, 2010 4:28 PM
>>>>>> To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>>>>> Subject: Re: Open office
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Hi Bill.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> So, are the ribbons still in Office 2010 Beta?
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