Would this improve the appearance of Outlook Express e mail messages as well? Thanks, Mitch from Geezerville Experience is that marvelous thing that enables you to recognize a mistake when you make it again. -F. P. Jones ----- Original Message ----- From: CrisMunoz54 To: jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Sent: Tuesday, October 19, 2010 2:36 PM Subject: RE: One or two spaces Two spaces are from the days of the typewriter. Go one space. It'll look better. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ From: jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Adrian Spratt Sent: Tuesday, October 19, 2010 2:33 PM To: jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: RE: One or two spaces Hi, John. Just to save anyone a duplication of effort, this Wikipedia link is to the same article as the one given to us by G.W. Cox. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ From: jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of john R. Vaughn Sent: Tuesday, October 19, 2010 4:57 PM To: jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: One or two spaces Adrian and list, interesting issue of whether to single or double space after the terminal punctuation for a sentence and the beginning of the next sentence. Believe it or not, the link below is from wicipedia on the matter and I found this from doing a google search. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sentence_spacing#History As for me, always a double space bar between sentences, I am going to try the one space bar and and have sighted folks tell me if the MS Word program does infact do some sort of variable spacing to clearly indicate the end of one sentence and another. John ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ From: jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Adrian Spratt Sent: Tuesday, October 19, 2010 2:04 PM To: jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: RE: please help Hi, Richard. You couch your argument in terms of blind computer users making sure their work looks as polished as our sighted colleagues. I agree with this concept, but you do it a disservice by flatly asserting that double spaces meet that objective. I was persuaded to switch to single spaces while using word processors by several sighted people who observed too much space at the ends of my sentences and by a man who has published the two standard texts on typesetting and typeset conventions. There may be special circumstances, such as the tab issue brought up by Ted Lisle, but the Wikipedia entry to which G.W. Cox sent a link lays out the history and current general preference. This is one of those questions that is very hard for us to grasp because the impact is purely visual. Unsupported, strongly worded assertions don't help. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Richard P. Kelly Sent: Tuesday, October 19, 2010 10:14 AM To: jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: RE: please help Greetings all, Proper formatting of a print document still calls for two spaces at the end of a sentence, after a colon, and perhaps elsewhere. This remains true even with mono spaced or proportionally spaced fonts. New word processors often assure proper style is used if auto correct and grammar checking is on. Still, we want what we print to look as polished as what our sighted colleagues produce; if not better! Cordially, Richard P. Kelly rpkelly@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx rich@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx www.new-visions-network.com From: jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Lisle, Ted (CHFS DMS) Sent: Tuesday, October 19, 2010 6:50 AM To: jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: RE: please help Now that's interesting. I Have seen one space from time to time, but never knew why. I sometimes long for the days of Pica and Elite, when laying out a document. In the immortal words of Edith Bunker, "You knew where you were then." However, I've managed to figure out which font-size combinations are functional equivalents of the old Pica, 10-space-per-horozontal-inch, format, and that's what I use. Vertical spacing will have to look after itself. Ted From: jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Adrian Spratt Sent: Monday, October 18, 2010 6:37 PM To: jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: RE: please help I preface this suggestion by acknowledging there's a debate about whether there should be one or two spaces after the end of a sentence. Despite my pre-computer typing training, I have been convinced that modern print fonts mean that two spaces are no longer desirable. So the way I solve the problem you describe is to search for two spaces and replace with one space. If you think there might be an odd number of spaces, say three, then search for that number first and replace with a single space. Then search for all instances of a double space and replace with that single space. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Hina Sent: Monday, October 18, 2010 6:24 PM To: jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: please help hi, i am writing a lots of reports and i did figure out formatting issues, but i am not sure how will i know if there are extra spaces between words, sentenses and paragraphs without reading word by word which is so time consuming? for sighted people, microsoft word highlights but is there any way to know with jaws? microsoft's spell checke option says that there is extra space and suppose to change it to make corrections, but they still remain and is there a way to deal with this issue with jaws? i would be very thankful for your help. hina. __________ Information from ESET Smart Security, version of virus signature database 5545 (20101019) __________ The message was checked by ESET Smart Security. http://www.eset.com